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Series 8 Finale Filming: Beyond the Grave

river-spoiler-journalFilming on Doctor Who’s Series 8 finale is continuing today in another familiar location.

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TheDoctorWhoTheroist
TheDoctorWhoTheroist

I have got a theor that Amy and Rory will come back but converted if they can now covert the dead and for a couple of minutes Amy confronts Clara and asks her to warn The Doctor. Clara then refuses and asks who she is and Amy says "Am... " and shoots her. Hence why the graves that had been seen with Galifreyian text on.

OzzyDenman
OzzyDenman

i dont care about amy and rory anymore. just let them go stephen... 

SavannahStay
SavannahStay

does anyone else see thomas thomas (from crimson horror) gravestone ?


Planet of the Deaf
Planet of the Deaf

Having seen a photo from today's filming, I can exclusively reveal..... that Jenna looked really nice. Apologies for the spoiler :-)

RomseyKeith
RomseyKeith

Don't forget there is a Guardian of the Nethersphere in this ep. It could be a mental landscape like The Matrix from The Deadly Assassin, in which the collective graves of all previous assistants are there to taunt the Doctor. It could all be during a Cyber conversion of the Doctor's mind (as seen in Nightmare in Silver) and they're trying to weaken his defenses by guilt tripping him and showing the people he's lost.

Pure speculation of course, but fun to speculate over. (Even the working title sugests out-of-body experience and hints at angels).

Whogasms
Whogasms

Aww the angel cherub look really cute, curled up in its box

Kylephantom4
Kylephantom4

Im curious to knoe how Amy and Rory were buried in New York, while Victorian Clara was buried in London......thats curious....

TARDlSkey
TARDlSkey

I think it's most likely the Cherub is in fact an actual stone decoration. It is a graveyard afterall... knowing Moffat, it will be a nice nod to the Angels and will likely appear in the same scene as Amy and Rory's grave, but that's all it will probably be: a nod. Nothing more.

Mercy Reborn2
Mercy Reborn2

maybe claras mum will come back as a cyberman

CyberSmith
CyberSmith

Could "Death In Heaven" be a death to somebody who is already dead, somehow? 

Amy, Rory or River, perhaps?

Seaborn W Deadman
Seaborn W Deadman

OOOOWEEEEOOOOOO! I love references to the past. Even though Amy and Rory are the relatively recent past...but still. Heritage is everything when it comes to Doctor Who, even just little references here and there. 

MattE81
MattE81

Does the old looking gravestone in one of the top pictures say Thomas Thomas - as in 'Crimson Horror'..?

WHO IS WHAT
WHO IS WHAT

is it just me or is this series looking to be extremely morbid XD haha dark doctor and everything Moffatt and the crew are going all out, no wonder Clara doesn't know who the Doctor is, the whole world goes dark around the flirty and happy wobbly wobbly Clara who met every doctor sort of.

JArm1996
JArm1996

Ellie Oswald's on 5th March 2005 - Wasn't that the date of the Nestene/ Auton invasion from Series 1's Rose. Maybe she got shot by one of the killer shop dummies....?

Deus_Ex_Machina
Deus_Ex_Machina

I just finished listening to the Big Finish story "The Reaping" in which the Cybermen begin converting dead bodies in a grave yard (or so it seems). Could this be a similar story?

I wonder if this means Moffat's going to kill a character off and then being them back. That would be a very original plot element, he's never done that before. Sarcasm sarcasm.

SilenceHasFallen
SilenceHasFallen

What the hell...? Clara (even two graves, new one, and one bit old), Ellie, Amy, Rory, Angel?! WHAT?? These graves are at different graveyards, you know that, Moffat, yes? :D




OR, OR! Maybe they just make fun from us and want to confuse us! This is fake! They are filming with the Master, but Amy's grave distracting curious eyes! :D  Definitely truth. :DD


Rani Nose
Rani Nose

Yes, many people have already mentions that in the comments.

chmayer
chmayer

In reality, wasn't this the same Welsh graveyard used for shooting Rory and Amy's graveyard scene? Might be nothing more than a prop storage matter?

Or not? We'll find out.

DaftDalek is Kavinsky, the Great 80's Annihilator
DaftDalek is Kavinsky, the Great 80's Annihilator

@Kylephantom4 Knowing Moffat  the first episode of the finale will take place in London, New York and 5439 AD Egypt. The second one will take place in Gallifrey, Ancient Greece, Parallel Universe Mondas and the future country of NeoSlovakia. Character featured (apart from the ones we already know) will include Alexander the Great, Hitler, Borusa and the greatest Rollerball player of East Korea (that'll be a country in 2000 years) Zeung Min-Hoo. Or something like that. Don't expect to understand much from a Moffat finale before watching it...

Chris502
Chris502

@JArm1996 No, going by Rose's disappearance poster, that was march 6th when the autons attacked. So perhaps she died in the shop explosion. 

Malohkeh
Malohkeh

@Deus_Ex_Machina If you don't like characters returning from the dead, you've picked the wrong genera of television.

chmayer
chmayer

I've been wondering - with so many fan pics & videos of the show's making - if Moffat might throw in some red herrings, misdirections, and the like on the sets. If I were Moffat I would. Seriously. Why not?

Herrbaltea
Herrbaltea

@SilenceHasFallen good gosh i hope this is a fake... for real though if he brings back amy and rory again or even mentions them I'm going to be so mad. They've run their course.

Mary Sue's Vertue
Mary Sue's Vertue

@Chris502 @JArm1996 According to the ''Time Traveller's Almanac'' [ an official BBC book ] the Auton invasion depicted in the episode ''Rose'' occurred in the Queen's Arcade shopping mall on Thursday 4th March 2005. Perhaps Ellie Oswald died in hospital from injuries sustained in that attack the following day ?

The Robo Superior
The Robo Superior

So the Doctor might be responsible for Clara's mum's death? Could that information be enough to make an Clara an enemy of the Doctor? Hope so - haven't had a turncoat companion for the longest time. Maybe she joins [insert evil Time Lord here] and attempts to [insert devilish plot here]...

LookingOneWay
LookingOneWay

@Chris502 @JArm1996 If thats true, then that means the Doctor is responsible for the death of his companion's mother. That's heavy. 

Oodkind
Oodkind

@Malohkeh @Deus_Ex_Machina Not really. Most characters stay dead. It's just that that exact thing happened to Rory in Cold Blood and The Pandorica Opens. Not to mention Amy's Choice, The Doctor's Wife, Black Spot, Day of the Moon, and The Angels Take Manhattan. 

JArm1996
JArm1996

@Chris502 @Mary Sue's Vertue I think Rose was declared "missing" 2 days after the Auton invasion because she told her mum she was staying at a friend's house, and Jackie must of thought she'd spend the next day there too thinking she'll come home that evening of the 5th (Rose also phoned her that day from Platform One in "The End of the World"), so Jackie didn't worry about her until when she didn't come home by the morning of the 6th.  So there's still a chance that Ellie was shot by an Auton that day, if Moffat is working on something trivial and clever like this...


chmayer
chmayer

Let's not forget Clara was once a Dalek. Not by choice, but, yeah, definitely a Dalek. #Oswin #AsylumOfTheDaleks

Amy is uniting the Earth Kingdom!
Amy is uniting the Earth Kingdom!

I wouldn't count "The Doctor's Wife". That was just a projection. We don't say that Rose convinced the Doctor not to use the Moment, after all. I would also hesitate to count "Amy's Choice" since it was just a dream. And he didn't even die in "The Pandorica Opens", so I don't know why you brought that one up. Or "Day of the Moon" (they were faking it)... and dangit Malohkeh, I was going to mention SPN. xP


Malohkeh
Malohkeh

@Oodkind  @Malohkeh @Deus_Ex_Machina And Captain Jack in The Parting of the Ways. Don't forget that! :)


I'm sorry, but death is often not a permanent thing in stories of the fantasy, sci-fi, and horror generas. And if you think Doctor Who has it bad, you should try taking a look at Supernatural.

TARDlSkey
TARDlSkey

Please don't say it's because they were RTD companions...