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Smith’s Regeneration Was Originally More Brutal & Troubling

smith-regen-speech-timeMatt Smith has said that the regeneration fans saw in The Time of the Doctor was very different to other versions he shot.

Speaking at the WonderCon Q&A he said: “It’s very interesting the Christmas episode and particularly the regeneration. We shot so many versions of that.”

He elaborates: “We shot much more brutal, emotional and troubling takes and stories in there. The actual take that is used is an interesting one for me.”

Unfortunately Smith doesn’t go into further details but original reports claimed the 11th Doctor lost a leg at some point.

Smith admits he would have preferred one of the alternative versions: “To be honest, although it’s still a great episode, I think perhaps of what we shot and what was cut I would have chosen differently.”

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RiverAlexandraSong
RiverAlexandraSong

Much as I hate spoilers, the loss of a leg makes sense. In TALES OF TRENZALORE you get the aging Doctor fighting various battles before "TIme of The Doctor" . They are all well written and will break your heart. I do hope they include alternate takes in the box set.

TheOncomingStorm
TheOncomingStorm

I wish it had been darker. It was decent, in terms of enjoyment, but it would've been better if it had been a bit darker in my opinion.

CapricornCross
CapricornCross

I think if it was any other time than Christmas Day, then they would have chosen the more brutal one.

IHatePears
IHatePears

I did hope it would be a darker episode, I thought it was a good one though, and it still is. I do with they would've had a longer 'throwing the arms back' regeneration or a new type of regeneration but I understand he'd been holding it all in, what really satisfied me was that he didn't whine about regenerating as the tenth doctor did, which made it hard for people to accept the change.

DW_girl
DW_girl

The regeneration scene was simple but poignant and tragic. Much better than the dramatic and explosive Tenth Doctor regeneration (although I still love it). My favourite regeneration scene so far though has to be Nine's. "You were fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. And you know what? So was I!" Just beautiful!

Liana21
Liana21

I think that the regeneration scene is quite good, and i like more I will remember when the Doctor was me to It's going to be a whooper, it has a prettiest and classiest tone. And I'm not sure if the brutal regneration would've been good for the kids, i still remember how traumatised I finished at 12 when Richard Moser regenerated in Inspector Rex.

DeannaTorres
DeannaTorres

I hated the regen.  Smith wasn't my fave doctor but all that build up to Trenzalore and the way he went out seemed like a bitch slap.

Judge Claude Frollo
Judge Claude Frollo

*The Eleventh Doctor was going to lose a leg at some point

Okay, we all know that Moffat was going to use this one until his wife begged him ‘Think of the children!’ Right?

Oh, this is Clara Prefect, by the way. Shocking, eh? :p









Jakob Boyd
Jakob Boyd

Unfortunately, Matt didn't go into film editing.

Meh Meh Meh Meh Meh
Meh Meh Meh Meh Meh

Does anyone else remember the "leaked" episode plot? It mentioned that he lost his legs due to a disease, and many people were speculating that that was the reason his legs weren't shown in the images provided. Maybe this part was changed due to the leak.



JLS1138
JLS1138

and THIS is why we need Doctor Who Confidential back 

The Moment
The Moment

It would be good if we got to see these 'alternative' regenerations. 

Master Michael Moon
Master Michael Moon

"Original reports claimed the 11th Doctor lost a leg at some point" Seriously? Considering the very first moments of the 11th Doctor when he alluded to having "still got legs", it's fortunate it didn't play out that way in the end...

StephenAHayes
StephenAHayes

I LOVE how 11 went. I thought it was such a great send off. Plus, I think to show Matt Smiths preferred version would have been (1) too sad given the story on Christmas Day and (2) not really suited Matt Smiths Doctor. However, Capaldi is said to be a"rouer, darker" Doctor so maybe we will see it when 12 regenerates

TheNightmareChild sees into your soul!
TheNightmareChild sees into your soul!

You know, the only thing that I honestly think could've improved the final moments of Eleven is if he had stayed an old man.  Somehow, I think it would've been just a little more impactful that way.

Maiden_Ty_One
Maiden_Ty_One

Ugh....This just says it all, really, doesn't it? So they did actually have a good regeneration shot there, they just chose to go with the over the top, ridiculously cheesy version they went with....

TheDarkDaysReborn
TheDarkDaysReborn

Funny when I was at the excel expo his stunt double was telling me that parts of the costume had been ripped due to the xmas special 

shyx111
shyx111

I think the one we have fits 11 perfectly. Still, I'm curious about the other versions! 

Tardis Stowaway
Tardis Stowaway

Lot of people saying we need Confidential back for this sort of thing, and I completely agree! It was a fantastic series and since it was axed the hard work put into the production is hardly seen. The 10min feature for Day of the Doctor was great, but a 45min episode of Confidential for that episode would have been so much better!  Unfortunately the BBC don't seem to be wanting to change their mind and bring it back, so it looks like the 2-3min (or around 10min if it's a special)  behind the scenes features are going to be all that we get.

I also agree about the DVD releases, quite often they're now featuring documentaries that aren't really as interesting or as informative as longer behind the scenes things such as video diaries or deleted scenes. I love watching all of them!

mczolly
mczolly

The losing of the leg could have been funny considering he was all so happy about the fact that he's still got legs.

calliarcale
calliarcale

The missing leg bit was apparently relayed to the four authors commissioned for "Tales of Trenzalore", because its mentioned in a couple of the stories -- and on one occasion, is used as a plot device.  (There are occasional advantages to a detachable leg...)

wizardgang
wizardgang

I think the more 'troubling' ones would've worked better as it would explain why Capaldi's Doctor is going to be 100% rebel time lord.

awkward912
awkward912

Nowt to do with Confidential, the problem is that for some reason deleted/extended scenes don't figure on DVD releases any more. Special edition please!

NewWho2012
NewWho2012

Didn't realise they'd done different versions like David Tennants. Be nice to see these one day but probably because we don't have Confidential we can't. Remember watching them show the three alternative ending lines for David Tennant's regeneration with different levels of emotion.

chinnysandshoes
chinnysandshoes

I think the released regeneration version was very in-character of Eleven. It was quiet, peaceful, touching, achingly sad, beautiful.... No OTT drama. I would love to see the other versions though. How brutal are we talking about? Eleven is never brutal or loud, I can't imagine him raging. Maybe one day they will release those versions and I'd love to hear of Matt Smith's choice.

Hibernus
Hibernus

Good man, Matt. I did admittedly have a sense that the regeneration in the televised episode was just a little too neat and cosy an ending for the Eleventh Doctor.

Regenerated Catterson
Regenerated Catterson

If I recall, 11 losing his leg was down to Matt Smith injuring his leg on set, so I heard. But man, I'd kill to see these alternatives....

PaddyB
PaddyB

LOST A LEG? Have I misunderstood this line because it sounds like it would make for rather gory family TV on Christmas day! Then again, David Tennant had his hand severed on Christmas 2005 so maybe this was to be an extension of this motif. Hopefully we don't see Peter Capaldi's yuletide decapitation any time soon!

TheOncomingStorm
TheOncomingStorm

@DW_girl  "Hello, I'm- New teeth. That's weird. Now where was I? Oh that's right... Barcelona!" Love it.

nrneace
nrneace

@ThePotatoOne  I think I would have to liked to see that if we had seen old man Eleven before this episode. 

Huknar
Huknar

@ThePotatoOne  His regeneration should have seen a face morph rejuvenation from old man to eleven and finally to Capaldi.

DW_girl
DW_girl

The losing of his legs would have been over the top!!

Planet of the Deaf
Planet of the Deaf

@shyx111  I will always forget when the Doctor was me, in fact I'm really not bothered about this face at all, see ya!

SGMusic
SGMusic

I actually went and watched the different takes of Tennant's after reading this and found that the one they picked was perfect. I wouldn't doubt the production team's judgement, even though it's a completely different one from back then.

Clara Laurinda
Clara Laurinda

@chinnysandshoes Beautifully written comment! I THINK the brutality was directed towards the Doctor, not something HE does; something that is done TO him. But, I do like what S there and yes I too would like o see what wasn't there, in fact I am very curious to know now. Probably they pulled back on it because they new viewers would be very emotional as they watched the show and with even young children are getting heart attacks these days (not to mention older individuals such as myself) they didn't want to cause viewers any lasting harm!?

MowTheFrontLawn
MowTheFrontLawn

@PaddyB  According to rumors:  Originally, the Weeping Angels grabbed the Doctor's leg and tried to immobilize him by turning it to stone.  He got a wooden one soon after.  The part of him getting his leg turned to stone and the part where it's shown he has a wooden leg were both cut.  The wooden leg was supposedly written in to explain why Smith was limping (he had an injury in real  life), and the Doctor's older age was already a good explanation for that, so it was cut.

teddybowties
teddybowties

@nrneace @ThePotatoOne  yeahbut this way, we can REVISIT OLD FACES whenever we want. Specifically, whenever the SHOWRUNNERS want. Which means there is now an opening for Smith to return whenever he chooses, at whatever age he returns at. ;) LOVE OYU MOFFAT. But seriously, give us some more foreground explanation to go with the cryptic tasty thinky stuff in the background.

awkward912
awkward912

@MowTheFrontLawn @PaddyB Hadn't heard any of this before, but that makes a lot more sense than his leg getting chopped off! (And wouldn't have had anything to do with the regeneration other than Smith's imminent departure allowing that explanation to not affect anything long-term) Glad it changed though, having quick explanations for his real-life limp/real-life wig within a minute or two would have seemed trite. PS Does that mean the Doctor's legs walking up the TARDIS steps at the end was a double?