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Series 8 Filming: Finale Clue

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Filming on Doctor Who’s Series 8 finale is underway and some pics from yesterday may offer a clue on what is to come.

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Who Dat
Who Dat

What if Missy IS River? 

They wanted to bring River back and Missy says things that River has said in the past .....

Joseph Graham
Joseph Graham

The more indecipherable one looks like Welsh.

Fadedeathdave
Fadedeathdave

As Ottoman14 said, that does seem much more likely to be a Cyberman's eye, being as I don't recall circular gallifreyan ever going outside the main circle, although it might have some gallifreyan importance or else it would just be plain circles without anything inside

Ottoman14
Ottoman14

In light of recent filming, I think it's fair to say that the symbol is indeed the eye of a cyberman as someone pointed out before, rather than Gallifreyan

OhLookRocks
OhLookRocks

Wikipedia indicates that the last two episodes will be named "Rest in Peace" and "We promise" respectively, except it seems really unfounded. Is there any info other than these pictures that could lead to believe this? As a matter of fact they're giving most of the "rumoured" titles with no reference to back it up.


ginger ninja667
ginger ninja667

maybe a memorial service for brigadier but its too late anyway

Richy Woo
Richy Woo

The is a bigger possibility at work here...  Have the human race been made aware of timelords?, in the Whoniverse reality humans are aware they are not alone in the universe, due to all the alien invasions and stuff, so surely finding out there is a timelord in a time travelling bluebox protecting the earth is not such a massive leap for them to take onboard. What if Capaldis Doctor is a Public Celebrity?

The Robo Superior
The Robo Superior

Wasn't the Rani's TARDIS in the guise of a memorial in Dimensions in Time? Is it her plan is to recreate that "adventure" making the Doctor's past lives look utterly ridiculous, and thus destroying his reputation throughout all time?!

Will Noel Edmonds return as the Master (after a nasty tissue compression accident)?

NumberNine
NumberNine

The presence of the tombstone AND what looks like an ad with the same basic message makes me think it's an exhibit of some kind at the gallery.

Mercy Reborn2
Mercy Reborn2

maybe they are timelords gravestones who were killed in the timewar

Castrovalva
Castrovalva

Can I thank DoctorWhoTv for their excellent spoiler policy.  With less than  two months to go until the new season this is now my only source of Who info on the Net.  Cheers!!  

ShameOnSM
ShameOnSM

It looks like the Master's Tardis for some reason...well to me it does.

rorythehipster
rorythehipster

Claras grave. Only thing it could be. Or the masters, but more likely a human, so Clara. Not the Doctor's, his will always be on Trenzalor

Richy Woo
Richy Woo

Finally , they are giving Handles the burial he deserves...

Unibot
Unibot

A gravestone for a Time Lord is sized according to their worth, as per Name of the Doctor. So I can't see it being The Master's, The Doctor's, Rassilion's, Romana's or any other of the major Time Lord characters. My first guess was it was Susan's gravestone... and then I got thinking. Time Lords really don't have gravestones, do they? They have time scars. So... what is the gravestone for then? 

francescalamoore
francescalamoore

Everytime I scroll down the spoiler hides itself again :( 

JohnTheMod
JohnTheMod

Perhaps it's a promise to the person interred? Maybe he or she made the makers of the monument promise to keep something safe?

SarahKay1
SarahKay1

The prop that's harder to read says "Rest in Peace" in the circle thing and "We Promise" again underneath it. And I agree with someone else's comment it does look like a cybermans eye.

Gallade Zero
Gallade Zero

I sure hope they aren't going to actually wrap up the whole "search for Gallifrey" arc by the end of next season. Moffat seemed to imply that it was going to be the Doctor's primary motivation for quite a long while.

The Outer Space K9
The Outer Space K9

Looks like the Daily Star was wrong they're not filming the finale next month. Intresting thing is that Wales online claimed that the filming pics from Friday were from episode 12 so that would suggest that this might be 13 episodes in series 8 after all.

Planet of the Deaf
Planet of the Deaf

There's a rumour that they will be filming in London next week...

JFrance
JFrance

Maybe this scene is set on a Gallifreyan graveyard and we see The Master burst out of his grave.  

Gallifreyfalls1
Gallifreyfalls1

Instead of the pandorica opens,silence will fall the arc could be rest in peace,we promise....peace equal the master resting and the promise could be from gallifrey or something,maybe even the promise that the doctor broke

VictorWong1
VictorWong1

Two things:

1. The "We Promise" has the sound of a sales pitch, as in "we guarantee it." Put after the "rest in peace," it seems to suggest a society where, those who are supposed to "rest in peace" (e.g. corpses) ... don't.

2.  I'll agree that the shape of the symbol does resemble a Cyberman's eye.

This would seem to suggest that a corporation or company dealing with dead bodies, is promising that their internees will stay dormant ... whereas the internees' bodies may be placed into Cyberman housings.

CyberZombies. Heh.

A Friend of the Ood is in your wall! :O
A Friend of the Ood is in your wall! :O

@Who Dat 1. River isn't evil.

2. River would have no reason to get the Doctor and Clara together.

3. River used all her regenerations.

4. That would be a disappointing revelation.

5. It's too easy to guess.

As for Missy's dialogue sounding like River's, let's just say that Moffat isn't known for writing a huge variety of female characters..

Sir Adric
Sir Adric

@Unibot the Timescar could be within the gravestone. But all in all, it's probably the Master's Tardis. If you've ever seen the Classic Series, you know that this is a great possibility.

PaddyB
PaddyB

@Unibot The TARDIS mausoleum in Name of the Doctor had nothing to do with the Doctor's worth, it was just the TARDIS suffering a 'size leak' as it slowly died.

NeutronFlow has a spoon in his pocket
NeutronFlow has a spoon in his pocket

@Gallade Zero I would respectfully disagree with you Mr GZ. 

I feel the most natural and comfortable span for an arc is one series, wrapping the collection of stories into one neat package. 

While i have no other particular issues with Steven Moffat, i did become irritated that the whole of Matt Smith's tenure (which, don't get me wrong was brilliant), turned out to be one massive story arc lasting for four years. 

Therefore my view is this: 

The 'Silence' arc was milked to death, it took far too long to resolve. Please, please don't do the same with the 'Gallifrey' arc.



cyberman 1323234
cyberman 1323234

Well in the pandorica episode we did see what can only be described as a cyber zombie so..?

DrunkenDalek
DrunkenDalek

I think you might have got it that's really clever, if Moffat hasn't ever thought of that then he is stupid.

Meh Meh Meh Meh Meh is in the Secret Play! Shh!
Meh Meh Meh Meh Meh is in the Secret Play! Shh!

I got the impression that the "we promise" is more of a solemn oath. The obelisks look serious and professional. It seems like something someone would say when they're indebted to someone- like if the Doctor saved a race from destruction but ended up dying himself, they might put up the "we promise" obelisks in memorial, to remind them what they're fighting for.

The Outer Space K9
The Outer Space K9

Moffat did make the Daleks scary again in Asylum so maybe he'll do the same with the Cybermen (as in making them a great threat not virtually indestructible).

Rani Nose
Rani Nose

@NeutronFlow @Gallade Zero Returning Gallifrey to the known universe is not a story arc but a multi-series framing device under which many story arcs can be constructed.

A Friend of the Ood is in your wall! :O
A Friend of the Ood is in your wall! :O

@NeutronFlow @Gallade Zero But the Silence arc was the plot of series 5 and 6. I don't think the Gallifrey arc would take up full episodes until it's found. There will probably just be a few hints, although I hope it's a little more subtle than "we've almost found it!" or "we're getting close!" at the end of every episode, which was basically how the Impossible Girl arc was.

gavinbarsby
gavinbarsby

Next year is the 10th anniversary of the reboot. I've got a feeling it will be resolved in a special.

A Friend of the Ood is in your wall! :O
A Friend of the Ood is in your wall! :O

@The Outer Space K9 Asylum did the opposite to me. They sent the Doctor because they were too scared to go. Then when we finally see the Asylum, it's full of broken Daleks with no weapons except the sucker arm, which would be useless against a Dalek. Asylum of the Daleks made them look weak and pathetic.

Korilyn28
Korilyn28

@A Friend of the Ood, the Silence continued into series 7, The Day of the Doctor had the question that was asked, and silence falling, and all that jazz

nielzabub
nielzabub

@A Friend of the Ood @The Outer Space K9 

I thought the Daleks in Asylum were at least creepy and disturbing. I got really tired of the whole "Daleks have an unstoppable army...now they're all dead...till next year." In Journey's End I did not care when all the Daleks died because I knew they were all coming back next year anyway. There was also no real reason to fear the big dumb Dalek army because by the time we got to series 4 we had seen at least three big, dumb Dalek armies wiped out in the episodes they were introduced.  I understand your view point in Asylum, but for me, the Daleks were at their scariest in season 1, and were becoming progressively less so in each subsequent appearance. Asylum was a conflict with them that didn't have the fate of the universe at stake, and because of that I was actually able to enjoy it. The directing and cinematography was also really good. The only thing about the episode that felt off to me was Amy and Rory's conflict. It wasn't a bad conflict, and I liked it a lot better on a second viewing, but I still think some more scenes of Amy and Rory interacting with each other would've made it better.

A Friend of the Ood is in your wall! :O
A Friend of the Ood is in your wall! :O

@nielzabub @A Friend of the Ood @The Outer Space K9 I love the directing and cinematography, Nick Hurran is easily the best director for the show since Graeme Harper. The overall feel of the episode is creepy because of the cinematography, but the Daleks weren't.

I appreciate that it's different from the usual invasion story, but the endless continuity problems make it hard for me to like. It's not really that bad actually, it's just a ton of smaller things that ruin it for me. I made an edited version without the Amy and Rory conflict and it was only 5 minutes shorter and nothing important was missing from the plot. It should have just been left out.

nielzabub
nielzabub

@A Friend of the Ood @nielzabub @The Outer Space K9 

The fear factor of the episode was more psychological. The biggest conflict of the episode was humans being turned into Daleks and the reveal of the first human Dalek on the planet and the dead bodies getting up and attacking was actually pretty cool. There was also a sense that the safety was limited and you were always wondering when the Daleks in the Asylum were going to come on and start wrecking things. The scene with Rory and the Dalek coming to life was great given that Rory had no knowledge of the Daleks and the audience did.

I didn't really have continuity issues. I'm fine with the character of the Daleks being experimented with and changed, and I find that most continuity issues people have with the episodes is just them wanting the Daleks to be the same as they always have been. I can understand that, but it's not a huge problem for me. I was fine with Amy and Rory being involved in the story and the conflict they had was actually an interesting one which resolved with an uplifting message that there's more to a marriage and a relationship than the ability to have and raise children. I just think the conflict didn't get the time it really needed because the focus of the episode was more on Clara.


Asylum's not my favorite episode and certainly not my favorite Moffat episode, but I still think it was good, and I appreciate that it tried to do something with the Daleks and actually made them interesting, at least for me, since Parting of the Ways.

nielzabub
nielzabub

@A Friend of the Ood @nielzabub @The Outer Space K9 

Why? How do we know it's the same Skaro? These are new Daleks. Maybe they just conquered some random world and named it Skaro. How does knowing why the planet is named Skaro impact the story in any significant way? It's just trivia, and not actually important. Trivia can be fun and engaging, but isn't vital for the story. Also, it was never explained how Skaro came back in the movie when it was destroyed by the seventh Doctor.

nielzabub
nielzabub

@A Friend of the Ood @nielzabub @The Outer Space K9 

The Doctor could've been making a joke about the name. The fact that the Daleks are so uncreative that they repeat the same name over and over again. Even if it is the same Skaro your comment doesn't address my point of how bringing it back affects the story of Asylum. Bringing back Skaro is not nearly as important as bringing back Gallifrey. The Daleks always survive and are still around in the universe. Bringing back Skaro is not a big deal because the Daleks have been around for a while anyway, whereas bringing back Gallifrey requires an explanation because the Timelords have been gone for so long. Whether it's the original planet or the new one, bringing Skaro back is not a big deal and its explanation would serve no real purpose to the story. Continuity in this show has basically been writers making stuff up as they went along for fifty years. Things need to be allowed to change and develop. It's the only way the show can move forward.