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Why Does the TARDIS Dislike Clara? Moffat Teases Answers

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Now it all makes sense!

Steven Moffat has hinted that there will be will further developments on why the TARDIS dislikes Clara.

Responding to a reader question on the subject in DWM, Moffat said: “As the Type 40 bad girl made clear in The Doctor’s Wife, she doesn’t like him bringing home strays. The TARDIS, as we know, likes to fire her pet Time Lord at interesting moments in history and watch the fireworks. Anyone less mad than the Doctor might have noticed by now the TARDIS navigation always works perfectly when the crisis demands, but never when he fancies lunch, or tea and biscuits at the Eye of Orion.

“Now those pesky humans who keep following him home are usually content to stumble about, saying: “It’s bigger on the inside.” and remain sufficiently in awe of the Police Box magic never to question it. But clever, sceptical, hard-to-impress Clara might just cause trouble.”

Not being able to resist a tease Moffat concludes: “It’s almost like it’s all building to something… Oh! What’s this I’m writing today?”

[Thanks to Finlay]

Step back in time...

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AdamFoster
AdamFoster

What IF and this is a big IF, Some stage in time Clara actually is the tardis? She becomes the life of the tardis hence why she made the doctor choose the tardis cause in fact it was her......I dunno it might be a long shot but it would make sense since she is saving the doctor through all of his lives

Polyphase
Polyphase

If she doesn't like Clara she would have hated Tegan because she was always putting the Tardis down for never going where she's told to.

LordRassilon
LordRassilon

For those of you who don't understand the 'TARDIS tormenting Clara' comments, i highly advise watching the minisodes. In one of them, the entire point of the minisode is to drive in this point!


(I won't give away how, but you really should watch all of these, as they involve Clara, River, and Vastra; making some very interesting plots.)

Now, I don't particularly understand why people dislike Clara. I'm somewhat fond of her--deapite being in favour of the Victorian version--as she has more about her than sex appeal, including class, honour, brains--thanks to the GI--, talent, and imagination. She is also seemingly able to do basic TARDIS operation, and the last time that the Doctor trained anyone on-screen was when exactly? Adric and Nyssa?

I was not fond of . Catherine Tate (5/10), until her metacrisis (9.5/10), and that was too short lived. The tension of Amy (7/10) was always irritating, and I lived with it, because she was gorgeous, and Scottish, but really, I thought that Rory (9/10) was the better part of this duo, and it was about time that we had a male companion. Mickey Smith (3/10) didn't do anything for me int hat regard, coming off as a smart-mouthed dimwit. before him, we had Turlough (7/10), who was admittedly an interesting character, and Adric (7/10), who it took me so long to warm to, that by the time I was liking him, he died. Then, we have Jamie!

If anyone would be described as the most loyal companions, it would be a toss-up between Sarah Jane, and Jamie. For purely intelligent female leads, we had Romana, and Zoe. The recent companions, were often lacking in the mental ability department, or had some gigantic personality flaw that was horribly irritating; by at least they weren't spraining ankles. 

Donna Noble always came off to me as snobby, snotty, and essentially complaining about everything. Agatha (Martha Jones, to me ranked an 8/10, as she was a much better companion, and smart in her own way, if not for the puppy-dog eyes, but clearly not cut out for actually doing something as difficult as piloting a TT capsule. Rose? I really never cared for her, mostly because of her teenager personality (5/10).


I think that the onyl reason that people like Rose, is because she was a sex symbol, for the modern series, to kick-start it for a new generation.


With Clara, I finally feel that the writers have managed to produce a well-balanced character, who isn't falling in love, and is very capable, with a wide skill set. She can cook, handle children, understand technology, deal with odd, diplomatic moments--holographic clothing included--and pilot the old gal; or at least pseudo-pilot her. 


If not for the TARDIS being so antagonistic, I expect she would be as competent as The Doctor at this. 


Precisely what is it about here that so many of you detest? The wiadom she portrays in Day of The Doctor is rather profound, being an overall positive impact on The Doctor, and of course, being selfless enough to give herself up to save him. That's pretty loyal. 


I am hoping that the new male lead will show equally brilliant traits, as I think that a female-only crew is rather skewed, obviously trying to sell the series by sex appeal, rather than good storytelling;l and I feel that this problem is somewhat relaxed now. You have some witty commentary, joking around the subject, but it is clear that there is genuine sense of friendship, rather than any love interest; making her far more appropriate.


Regarding this 'news', I also thought that The TARDIS was letting go on this anti-Clara outlook; but she may still be holding back. I seem to take the meaning of this, that the old girl isn;t yet willing to let Clara pilot her, and at some point, Clara may be put in a position where she has to argue with The TARDIS in order to pilot her solo, when our favourite renegade Timelord is out of control


A large hint was given to us last time: 'Do you know how to fly this thing?', and I expect that Moffat's hint was directed toward that scene, rather than any ongoing situation, as Clara slowly convinces The TARDIS to allow her to operate her controls, starting with an emergency landing of some sort, avoiding some kind of 'Edge of Destruction' situation, in Capaldi's post-regeneration crisis. 


I honestly wouldn't read too much into the comments that Moffat made, as Moffat is famous for dropping hints that tantalise us, but really aren't that prominent. There is a good deal of flashy expose, that amounts to nothing, meant to tease us; but in the end, being of little substance.


In the end, as a companion, I would give Clara an 8.5/10. She can't hold a candle to Susan (10/10), Ian (10/10), Romana (10/10), Nyssa (10.10), Jamie (9/10), or Sarah Jane (9/10)...yet; but she has grown on me since we saw her in 'The Snowmen', and I really would have liked to see that version of her as the lead, in place of the modern edition. Perhaps we can have some kind of memory recall moment, and a bit of those other personalities may lift to the surface at times.


Let us at least be thankful she isn't Tegan (6/10),  Peri (5/10), Mel (4/10), or Ace (4.5/10); yet she surpasses most other modern series companions, and other good classics, such as Zoe (8/10), and Liz Shaw (7.5/10), Leela (8/10).


(These are based on my bias that The Doctor needs a balancing companion, and not merely a tag-along with a bouncy chest.)


For major, recurring audio companions, we have Charlotte (9/10), C'rizz (3/10), Lucy Miller (3/10), Mary Shelley (6.5/10), and Evelyn Smythe (9/10); so based on my own personal benchmarks, with a little additional work on technical skills, Clara may evolve into a 9.5, or a perfect-10 for me. Amy would score higher, if not for the constant dramatic tension, and arguments.


Ivegotnewkidneys on the 23rd
Ivegotnewkidneys on the 23rd

I would love to see Idris come back for an episode just so we can see clara and her arguing that would be funny 

RoseTyler1
RoseTyler1

Maybe she knew all along that Clara was going to convince him to do something stupid to the point that he saved something that shouldn't have been. Saved, that is.

YaelMoise
YaelMoise

I for one hope that this is a red herring and nothing more.


I'm sorry. I don't like this version of Clara, and I am glad the Tardis tortures her. I hope she will not be back after the new series ends.

bagginses
bagginses

Er...wow, this is still a thing? The TARDIS has shown no signs of disliking Clara since Journey when she got lost in there. I figured you just up and resolved that offscreen, Moff, but this new update leaves me fascinated and impressed by your eternal brilliance. 

LaraHarris
LaraHarris

I genuinely don't care. I'm done with the whole "companions as a plot device" can we please just have some Doctor Who?

TonySimmons
TonySimmons

Yeah yeah yeah, we're all on the edge of our seats now intrigued by what he's writing today. Arn't we all so lucky he's thrown us fans a little teaser. He's such a genius

TheFirstMaster
TheFirstMaster

She should be happy that it was Clara who persuaded the Doctor to pick her.

BillBerna
BillBerna

Maybe the TARDIS is actually another of Clara's incarnations. We know she was Gallifreyan in one of them so we know that being human is not a requirement. 

Amy is Hannibal
Amy is Hannibal

Maybe it's something to do with why the TARDIS started crashing at the end of "The Time of the Doctor".

Bert_Macklin
Bert_Macklin

Well Moffat, you surprisingly impressed me by tying up things that I didn't expect you would in "Time," so I'm intrigued..

Seaborn W Deadman
Seaborn W Deadman

It could just be that Clara's pretty smart and understands all the timey wimey stuff a bit better than any of the companions the Doctor has had in a long time, and that irritates old Sexy because she rather likes it when she impresses people :)

VictorWong1
VictorWong1

I suppose it's fair to say that, of the companions, Clara is the one who's had the most interactions with the Doctor throughout his lifetimes, due to her efforts to neutralize the effects of the Great Intelligence. And the TARDIS is aware of this. So: simple jealousy.
The 2013 specials seem to have established a sort of detente between Clara and the Tardis, enough so that the old girl doesn't try to repel her off her doors before returning to the Doctor at Trenzalore. And of couse Tasha Lem must have been persuasive enough to get the Tardis to retrieve her for that finale.

Kylephantom4
Kylephantom4

So im guessing there is still a mystery on Claras character? Alsoghere ks the woman in the shop still

Planet of the Deaf
Planet of the Deaf

It'll be fascinating if Moff addresses this, it'll be a great climax to the Clara story on the show!

I had assumed Clara's impossibleness was the reason why the TARDIS was being a cow, as otherwise there is no reason why old sexy would be jealous of her any more than any of the Doctor's other companions


RichardTyler
RichardTyler

I think they worked it out to where the tardis and Clara get along after rescuing the doctor from the great intelligence. In the 50th special Clara annals her fingers and the doors close. Not an easy trick or accomplishment.

RichardTyler
RichardTyler

Jealous girlfriend? The tardis now he's to deal with Clara at all points in her relationship with the many doctors. Would you're wife wasn't to share you?

Fallenlegend
Fallenlegend

@LordRassilon  disagreed Donna noble was the best companion exactly because he was a flawed woman that wrongfully thought she was pathetic.Rory on the other hand 2/10. Most boring companion ever. and no being a roman didn't help,











Notsosmartguy
Notsosmartguy

Out of the companions I've seen:

Clara: 10/10

Rory: 10/10 (I see a lot of myself in him )

Amy: 9.5/10

River: 10/10

Donna:7/10

Martha: 9/10

Rose: 3/10 hate her

Sarah Jane: Infinity/10 (as it should be)

Jo: 9/10

Notsosmartguy
Notsosmartguy

I'd feel bad for the doctor though having two lovely ladies bossing him around.

iLqcs
iLqcs

@ilyootha  The Tardis and Clara are on the same team when it matters (Journey) but the bicker (minisode, Hide).

Fallenlegend
Fallenlegend

@YaelMoise  Disagreed I love Clara but I find Rory as incredibly flat and boring character.

Notsosmartguy
Notsosmartguy

Hmmm I hadn't noticed that. I'm kinda sad:-( I'm still hoping the tardis teasing Clara is a thing ( I love Clara but that scene in hide was too dam funny)

Notsosmartguy
Notsosmartguy

I don't look at like "companions a plot device" I look at as "Companions being useful" the only time I felt a companion was a plot device was Donna in journey's end. But everything else doesn't bother me :-)

Amy is Hannibal
Amy is Hannibal

@LaraHarris  This doesn't necessarily make her a plot device though... she can still be a character and have interactions with the TARDIS... the Doctor's managed that or about 50 years now... 

teddybowties
teddybowties

@BillBerna  taht's what I am thnking, in one fo my theories.Clara is the person who will BECOMe the Moment, then the TARDIS, then Bad Wolf. ;) I wish we could see a bit more of Idris and also Idris -as-the-TARDIS though; she was REALLY special.



chmayer
chmayer

The TARDIS also crashed with Ten's regeneration. I think that crashing may be more a regeneration thing than a Clara thing?

teddybowties
teddybowties

@Seaborn W Deadman  If this TARDIs is the real TARDIS. remember all those rumours about a FLESH TARDIS back when? ;) That's what I'm banking on. The TARDIs has beena bit funny for a while now...

Gallade Zero
Gallade Zero

@Seaborn W Deadman If that were true though, surely she would've shown some animosity towards Rory, after he already guessed that the TARDIS interior was in another dimension.

teddybowties
teddybowties

@VictorWong1  Yep. Becuase Tasha Lem is who River Song/Melody was always MEANt to be. River Song was an alternate her, destroyed in the dead timeline. ;) Tasha is River, which means that Tasha is STILL a child of the TARDIS, which explains why the TARDIs would listen to her.

YaelMoise
YaelMoise

@Fallenlegend @YaelMoise To each his own, hun. I can't say I'm a huge fan of Rory's, but I definitely hate this version of Clara, and watching the Tardis put her through the wringer gives me a nice warm feeling inside every time I watch it happen. :)

LaraHarris
LaraHarris

And that would be lovely. It would make a nice change from the last three seasons. Until then, I'll base my assumptions on how he's written to date and hope to be pleasantly surprised

chmayer
chmayer

I thought that rather interesting how comfortable Tasha was with the TARDIS... Much as River is. (Yes, I think there may be a River-Tasha connection, too.)

Amy is Hannibal
Amy is Hannibal

@YaelMoise @Amy the Consulting Key Ring @RoseTyler1   He could stop using the TARDIS until it did stop. It cares just as much about him as he does it, so yeah, I'm pretty sure his opinion carries some weight. The Doctor isn't going to stand for abuse and torture toward one of his companions, even if its the TARDIS doing it. That would be utterly disgusting of him. And don't patronize me, "hun."



TheNightmareChild sees into your soul!
TheNightmareChild sees into your soul!

@Amy the Consulting Key Ring @LaraHarris  As long as a character is defined by more than just their function as a "plot device", in other words, as long as they are still a good, strong character in their own right, I honestly don't see the problem with it anyway.  I don't have a single problem with Rose or Donna or anyone being the key or the central figure in resolving an arc or a mystery because that wasn't all they were; they were also strong, relatable characters at the same time, as well as believable companions for the Doctor.  I feel that way about all of the Doctor's companions in the current show, including Clara, who, granted, is still lacking in some character development, but she's also only been around for half a season.  I could be off base here, though, and if I am, don't be afraid to tell me exactly how.

Amy is Hannibal
Amy is Hannibal

@LaraHarris @Amy the Consulting Key Ring  Amy was never the real mystery. The cracks were the mystery, and the cracks had affected her. She was essentially just a clue toward the bigger mystery. I'll give you River and Clara though.

As for Donna, does "there's something on you back" ring a bell? Introduced in her second episode as a regular companion. "DoctorDonna"? Foreshadowed in "Planet of the Ood". Timelines and parallel worlds converging on her? Shown in "Silence in the Library" and brought up in "Turn Left".

Even Wilf was turned into a mystery companion for his one-episode run as a companion. Early on in the episode, they talked about how weird it was that they kept running into each other (which is what they retroactively made Donna's mystery as well), and that led up to him being the one to "knock four times," which technically extends his mystery into the two previous episodes as well.

Also, you seem to be confusing the terms "plot device" and "mystery". A plot device is something that's introduced in order to move the plot along. Rose is the core of the Bad Wolf plot; she's was used to resolve it. And then she was later used as a plot device in Series 4 when she kept reappearing; she was a harbinger of the impending multiversal crisis. Amy would likewise be a plot device since she ultimately serves as a progressing factor to the cracks plot. River, Donna, and Clara, however, were mysteries. They all had unusual qualities that made them the plot.

LaraHarris
LaraHarris

@Amy the Consulting Key Ring @LaraHarris  neither Rose nor Donna were plot devices. Bad Wolf was a plot device but we didn't know it was Rose till the last episode and Donna ALSO only became important at the end. Amy was a mystery from the get go, as was River and Clara. So yeah, last three seasons. 5, 6 and 7.