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Series 8 Filming: Volcano Day

capaldi-tennant-firesWith the recent announcement of Doctor Who filming in Lanzarote alongside Moffat’s tease of the Doctor “returning to the scene of an old adventure”, speculation has gone wild.

One prominent theory is that the 12th Doctor will revisit Pompeii. This was brought on by Moffat’s tease last year where he stated that Capaldi’s past appearances in the Whoniverse will not be ignored:

“I remember Russell [T Davies] told me that he had a big old plan as to why there were two Peter Capaldi’s in the Who universe: one in Pompeii and one in Torchwood. When I cast Peter and Russell got in touch to say how pleased he was, I said, ‘Okay, what was your theory and does it still work?” and he said, ‘Yes it does. Here it is…’

“We’ll play that one out over time. It’s actually quite neat.”

Something that might support this is that filming is taking place at the Volcán del Cuervo, aka the Raven’s Volcano. The show’s make-up artist, Claire Pritchard, recently tweeted some pics of the filming base and a view of the volcano:

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Then of course there’s the other theory that it could be a follow up to the 1984 Fifth Doctor adventure “Planet of Fire” which saw Lanzarote used as itself and the volcanic planet Sarn.

However, there’s conflicting earlier reports that the story will take place on the moon, with the rumoured title “Kill the Moon”. The landscape could just as easily provide suitable landscapes for that. As ever, time will tell…

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exiledgooner
exiledgooner

There's a long precedent of actors obviously playing numerous roles-there's even an in-joke about it in Hamlet, when Polonius remarks that at university he 'played a good Julius Caesar', alluding to the actor playing Polonius there and then having previously played Caesar on the same stage a few years before. It was common place before television when the stage was the primary source of public entertainment, and is still common in stage companies now; look at David Tennant! The show's about a mad old alien flying around through time and space in a blue box, so I really don't think the fact that Capaldi has been in the show already should break the willing suspension of disbelief! Actors play more than one role, I hardly think it's going to spoil the illusion, especially as he's such a magnificent actor, so why can't we just accept that actors are playing a part and aren't the characters they inhabit!

11th Doctors Purple Coat
11th Doctors Purple Coat

To the people worrying and questioning why it has to be explained why there's more than one Peter Capaldi, I have a question. Why not? It's an opportunity for a really cool story arc to come about and for us to return to the past of Doctor Who. And I've also noticed the pattern that many of the people complaining that they shouldn't explain why there's more than one Capaldi are the same one's who constantly beg for other seemingly pointless things to be explained.......

tardiselliot
tardiselliot

I don't see the need to explain it. tonnes of actors have had numerous roles. Didn't have to explain those, why this?

RyanFee
RyanFee

I really hope that, if it does involve caecelius, then Donna noble will be partly featured at least. Probably not, but still...

TonySimmons
TonySimmons

Kind of hoping its a follow up to a classic series story, Fires of Pompeii was pretty unforgettable but a follow up to Planet of Fire or Caves of Adrozani would be much more interesting!

DeanAlexander
DeanAlexander

Half of me wants them to explain all this and the other half of me wants them to leave it alone. It could come across as a bit silly.

Richy Woo
Richy Woo

I think that they will save the whole Caecillus and Frobisher thing for a huge special with cameos from a few other Doctors. We all know what effect entering the Doctors time stream had with Clara, scattering alternate versions of her throughout time and space. Its entirely likely the Doctor did the same thing when he entered his own time stream, this would explain Tom Bakers curator and all the versions of Twelve scattered about the universe. I look forward to a "Trials and Tribble-ations" style episode where Twelve and Clara are sneaking about trying to avoid other versions of themselves.

MrEvers
MrEvers

I'm sticking with my theory: the angels sent Amy to ancient Pompeii, 12 saves her and gets her as close to Rory's time as possible. Amy becomes "the girl who waited again"



Mercy Reborn2
Mercy Reborn2

Ihave heard a rumour it might be moon related

The Sherlock Doctor
The Sherlock Doctor

Thank Gawd Russell's theory is being used. I think Moffat might have just ruined the whole multi-universe appearances thing... :P

Mercy Reborn2
Mercy Reborn2

I think it would be nice to have a sequel to Planet of Fire or some new planet

lukefoord
lukefoord

Twelfth Doctor has to use the chameleon arch for some reason and becomes Caecilius. Therefore for Fires of Pompeii it's actually the Twelfth Doctor in human form. Then this episode might focus on him returning to uncover his Time Lord persona. How awesome would that be? The Tenth Doctor (with the help of Donna) saved his future self without knowing?


MikeFalino
MikeFalino

worried about how the "explanation" of two Capaldis will play out.  If it's a really cool quirky thing ok, but if it somehow fundamentally shifts something important... not so much.  We just had a bunch of that. The canon needs time to heal and move on.

Walterjacobmire
Walterjacobmire

Could be set before the events in Nightmare in Silver.

Benjamin Bradley
Benjamin Bradley

Have you thought that perhaps it might be both Sarn and Pompeii? It would fit with Moffat's reference to the Peter Davison story, as well as with his comment about Russel's plan to correct the continuity error. 

MrThorfan64
MrThorfan64

Stories set on the Moon. The Moonbase, The Seeds of Death, Frontier in Space, Smith and Jones, Day of the Moon (not set there but Moon landing big part). Maybe Sontarans attacking Moon. It would be good strategic position for attacking Earth.

TheOncomingStorm
TheOncomingStorm

I hope it's not the moon. We've already been there twice. I hope it's Pompeii and he uses RTD's story to explain why Capaldi has appeared before.

NumberNine
NumberNine

I feel like there is NO way that Steven Moffat is making this big of a deal of filming in Lanzarote and returning to an old adventure, only to have it end up being the moon. NO WAY. This is bigger than that.

Planet of the Deaf
Planet of the Deaf

Rumoured name of Episode "Kill the moon"



Karen Gillan has been said to have a moon face

She appeared alongside Capaldi in The Fires of Pompeii


The episode is clearly about 12 going back to Pompeii to help Caecilius kill Karen Gillan's soothsayer...

The Finn
The Finn

The scenery also looks like a desert, so it might not be a Planet of Fire or Fires of Pompeii sequel or be on the Moon...

DaireConstantineOReilly
DaireConstantineOReilly

A person told me, that the moon landings were faked and filmed in lanzarote [I don't believe this] So the "Kill the Moon" Story could be filmed in Lanzarote. I also herd from someone that the Appollo astronauts trained in a location similar to Lanzarote. So this location filming Could be for "Kill The Moon"

TheSoundofDrums
TheSoundofDrums

I'm really hoping we get a return to Sarn. That would be interesting and a nice little delve into the past. Why stop just because the 50th celebrations are over? If it is something to do with Pompeii I'm curious to see how that plays out and what Russell's grand master plan is that Moffat's going along with. If of course the title is 'Kill the Moon' I'm curious as to whether the Silence are involved, though that is unlikely due to their story now at an end. But since they had a significance with the Moon one can only put dots together. Either that or the Judoon are nicking hospitals again.

LucasW
LucasW

Just because it is returning to the scene of an old adventure doesn't mean it's a story we've seen... Look at The Face of Evil, or Timelash (before looking away again VERY quickly) Lanzarote may make it look like Sarn or suggest Pompeii, but y'know... Could be anywhere.

The Outer Space K9
The Outer Space K9

So what of it's actually two episodes they're fiming there - possibly one about Pompeii and the other about the Moon. Just like they did in series 5 with Vampires of Venice and Vincent and The Doctor both  filmed in Croatia

Americanwhovian
Americanwhovian

I've always wanted to see planet of fire but its not at my local library

SilenceHasFallen
SilenceHasFallen

Why when I heard that title "Kill the Moon" I think about Strax... :D

ilyootha is back in home Universe
ilyootha is back in home Universe

Wasn't "Kill the Moon" one of those "rumors" from facebook? I'm not prepared to believe any of them, and I don't think it would be wise to go abroad just to film the Moon anyway. Pompeii also doesn't seem plausible. Anyway, whatever it is, I'm always glad to have a sequel to a past adventure, and even more so if it is a classic story!


Maiden_Ty_One
Maiden_Ty_One

@exiledgooner Yeah, they do it other shows all the time. Stargate regularly recycled some of its actors in minor roles between its 3 shows. I do think it's cool that this time they're actually going to make it part of the story, though.

Liana21
Liana21

I got one great. An actor who started as a teenager, one day in the series where he worked as adult, it was a plot about a teenage girlfriend and his roommate says him, meanwhile he's viewing old photos, that if sometime, someone said him that he looks exactly as the character he played on a famous series as teenager.

exiledgooner
exiledgooner

@11th Doctors Purple Coat  I think they're asking for plot points to be explained better, while this isn't necessarily a plot point but a production issue, and they usually (in my humble opinion) work better if you don't draw too much attention to them. Willing suspension of disbelief and all that, eh!

Brainlock
Brainlock

@tardiselliot Caecilius doesn't need to be explained away, BUT John Frobisher does, for his actions in Children of Earth.  There is no way this Doctor can run around modern day and not get recognized as the face of the group willing to sacrifice children to aliens before killing his own family in a murder-suicide.  You can not just handwave that away.

Brainlock
Brainlock

@MrEvers I was going to agree with that, but not after they left in Manhattan. Just leave it and don't mention it again.

Brainlock
Brainlock

@lukefoord no, because that opens up the can of worms of the kids and whatnot.  Were the family really his? or were the family/friends hypnotized into thinking he was their dead husband/father?

Romanadvoratrelundar
Romanadvoratrelundar

@MikeFalino  I agree, but I don't think it will be like that. I (hope) that Moffat and RTD won't warp the cannon just to explain something that doesn't really need to be explained anyway.

Benjamin Bradley
Benjamin Bradley

By this I mean-- a time travel episode. "Planet of Fire" traveled back and forth in time, why can't "Kill the Moon"? It would be so Moffat to satisfy both connections. I think his first priority is to fix the Capaldi conundrum and secondly to sprinkle in a little Davison homage. 

DWTV
DWTV moderator

There were/are two sets of rumoured titles going around. One bunch came from a bogus Facebook page and the other came from set reporters/spoilerhounds with very good track records. Titles change though so doubt Kill the Moon will stick.


Oodkind
Oodkind

Frobisher was the great great...etc...great grandson of Caecilius? Like Gwen was a descendent of Gweneth? That would mean the Doctor has hundreds of descendants on earth now...