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Piper Up for Rose/Meta-Crisis Ten Spin-Off

meta-crisis-doctor-bad-wolf-bayBillie Piper has said she would be up for a spin-off featuring Rose Tyler and the Meta-Crisis Tenth Doctor.

“That would be interesting… I’d be game!” she said at the recent Awesome Con panel when a fan posed the question to her.

Piper then addressed an issue some fans had with The Day of the Doctor – the fact she played the Moment rather than the real Rose meaning she didn’t get to reunite with the Tenth Doctor.

She said: “I’ve heard a lot of that, [fans saying] ‘Why couldn’t you just be Rose and actually see [the Tenth Doctor] and be with him?’”

“I think to come back and do something slightly different was welcome for me because I’d come back so many times that even though I loved Rose I thought it probably needed a bit of a shift. And that’s what Steven Moffat wanted, he brought something very different.”

She adds: “It’s good to watch it and wish that they could somehow connect in the way they used to instead of being totally satisfied. I really enjoyed playing it because I could be a bit mad and a bit strange.’

However, Piper admits she found playing the Moment hard to get her head around: “It was quite a confusing episode I thought. When I read the script I was like ‘what?!’ I got it in the end with the help of David though.”

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ClaireAbraham
ClaireAbraham

I think it all comes down to a few crucial questions. 


1. Would a spin-off or special starring the Metacrisis Doctor and Rose have an audience?

2. Would it make money?

3. Would the producers be able to create a unique story for their particular situation?

4. Does anybody with authority and power actually want to do this?

5. Would Billie and David actually make themselves available for this? 

6. Would this series actually solidify the Metacrisis Doctor as an actual manifestation of the Doctor? 


I do think it would probably have an audience and make money - more so if they actually managed to create an interesting story that built on the story from the original series rather than merely rehashing it. Tentoo was really, really poorly written in "Journey's End", and so the frequent protestations that he was The Doctor fell pretty flat for a lot of people. If they managed to make him a three-dimensional character who managed to be a convincing Doctor (merely minus the regeneration ability) this could work. But....


I do wonder if anybody in power actually wants to do this. Moffat doesn't seem to regard the Metacrisis Doctor as a separate incarnation - hence his comments to Clara that Ten just kept the same face once out of vanity.  I really did not like that line at all, because in Journey's End it was pretty obvious that Ten shot the energy into his hand because Rose was having a hysterical meltdown. However, if TPTB don't have any respect for Tentoo as the Doctor, then no, this idea cannot possibly work. And really... Tennant's been awfully busy lately. He might be hard to track down for this.

fluttergamer
fluttergamer

Why is everyone hating on Rose? I know she has some flaws, but no need to hate on her. I happen to like her. My favorite companions are only her and Donna. I don't really like Martha >-> Too jealous.

The Finn
The Finn

I liked Piper as the Moment probably more than her playing Rose.

PaulMatthews1
PaulMatthews1

Id really like to see more Micky/Martha and what they are of doing

MrsUnderhill
MrsUnderhill

Spin-off is 100% unrealistic at the stage, but 10th NewWho Anniversary episode with guest appearances from  TenToo and Rose would have been perfect! More so if written by RTD.

Moffat was never fond of Ten/Rose, and wouldn't give a good fan service. And it's all this is about, really. :)  

And yes, would love to see Jenny at some point, too.

Version 3.0
Version 3.0

Whatever you think of Rose before, Piper was at least great as The Moment.

ahunter8056
ahunter8056

I'm wondering, if so many people are opposed to a spin-off starring The Tenth Doctor and Rose, would those same people be opposed to a spin-off starring Amy and Rory getting on with their new lives in 20th century New York?

TheGreatCompanion
TheGreatCompanion

To be honest, I don't like Rose Tyler at all. Most people only like Rose because of 10 x Rose, which I'm not very fond of at all. I don't like it when the Doctor falls in love with his companions. It kind of ruins the mysterious mentor-ness the Doctor is supposed to have.

MJJ
MJJ

Perhaps Rose/Meta as a one-off for the 55th or 60th anniversary, if the story is good. Personally, I wanna see what The Doctor's Daughter has been up to, lately.

Dannie Madsen
Dannie Madsen

I don't care the slightest about all the negative comments on this. Rose was a very important and interesting character and I loved every bit of time she was on the show (every bit, The Moment too). I know that she was an amazing character from start to end, and I would love to see a spin-off with Rose and the Tenth Doctor Meta-Crisis, maybe the current Doctor could happen to visit them, because this would also bring a kind of effect to how Rose sees him, last seeing him as Tenth Doctor. It would be amazing to see Rose and Tenth Meta-Crisis (with possible visit from Twelfth Doctor) spin-off. Just would be amazing.

Rani Nose
Rani Nose

Just to be clear, it is highly unlikely that anyone in any position to make a spin-off happen is considering a Rose-meta 10 spin-off.  Piper was asked a question by a fan and she gave a polite, non-committal answer.  She knows a spin-off is not going to happen, but she also knows that saying "no, not gonna happen" is not a good answer at a fan convention.



Noybusiness
Noybusiness

I don't think the spinoff is very likely, but I'd be up for it. Especially if written by Russell T. Davies. Though it would be interesting to see Steven Moffat or Mark Gatiss's take on it too.

LanceMasina
LanceMasina

No thanks, I think we're quite done with Ten & Rose fandom.

FisherCrane
FisherCrane

I find Rose to be quite overrated.  In my opinion, the reason this spin-off has gained such support, is that people want 10 and rose back. That isn't what Doctor Who is about. It's not about x character forever. I wouldn't mind a companion spin-off, but I think the Meta/Rose show would be a step back for a show which is entering a new age. The age of Capaldi. =-) 

chinnysandshoes
chinnysandshoes

Rose was the only companion whom I felt did not grow as a person in her own right. Up to the very end, she continued to pine for the Doctor instead of just Getting On With Her Life Already. Enough please! People criticize Martha for being lovesick and all, but she recognized and accepted her situation with grace and wisdom in the end, left on her own terms and went on to be awesome. Now THAT'S strength and growth. No no no, I do not want to see a Rose spinof or any more of Rose. If Billie Piper came back as The Moment or guest-stars as some other entity, that's ok by me.

Oncoming_Badger
Oncoming_Badger

I wish Rose had never returned in Series 4, as Karen Gillan says it ruins the effect of Doomsday, I wish we had have just gotten her cameo in The End of Time cause that would've been amazing and heartbreaking.

Xenon Unicorn
Xenon Unicorn

No. Just no. No offensive to Billy Piper (great actress), but I've had just about enough of Rose Tyler. /She's not the greatest companion ever/. And her "love story" with the Doctor was far too sickly sweet for me, parts of it seemed like a poorly written fanfiction. I have a bad feeling that is what this spinoff would end up like, as well. Not to mention, this would likely have a domestic setting, which seems kind of boring IMO. 

If any companion deserves a Spinoff, it would be Romana. I would totally watch a Spinoff based on the audio series "Gallifrey". 


LordRassilon
LordRassilon

My edit period elapsed, but I would like to add this:


With regard to companions from the modern series that deserve to return, I place Jenny at the top of the list.

LordRassilon
LordRassilon

I am content never to see Rose again: I've had enough of her (the character), and I think that her story concluded as good as it could (for her). 

The Doctor has been 'falling in love' with, and dumping human conpanions since The Enemy Within, and I think we have finally returned to a Doctor that we can respect, without the flirting.


In my opinion, I think that Carol Ann Ford (Susan) would have been the ideal choice for The Moment: Susan was the conscience of The Doctor from  the onset of the story, and it would both have been a nice nod to the original series, and far more emotional for The Doctor, if the Moment projected as her. 

How much more would it have impacted Hurt's Doctor to see his granddaughter there, when he's about to wipe out all the children of Gallifrey? Billie was no more than 'fan service', to fans of te new series, who wouldn't recognise Carol.


As to a spin-off, I would try watching it,but I'd much rather have a Gallifrey spin-off, or something that is actually interesting science-fiction. I just don;t see a spin-off on alternate-earth, with alternate-10, alternate Pete, Jackie, and Rose, as good storytelling. perhaps as a mini-series, or as audios, it might work, but all I can picture is a humanised Ten feeling depressed about being confined to one planet, while making out with Rose, in this kind of series on the telly.

Malohkeh
Malohkeh

I would not care for this spinoff. I found their relationship in series two fairly aggravating, and I don't need to see their domestic life sans TARDIS.


If we were to get a spinoff, my top choices would be the Eighth Doctor or the Paternoster Gang. (Or maybe both together? That might be fun.)

AngieLee
AngieLee

does it really matter what it's about? I'm a whovian and i'd watch anything they made. May not like it but i'd watch it and it would fill the lonely time between seasons. I've heard of worse ideas anyway.

AllonsyGeronimo
AllonsyGeronimo

Meta Crisis and Rose would be perfect as a 60th Anniversary or even a 10th Anniversary of New Who 8 Minute Minisode

rde94
rde94

Id ove a spin off with met10/rose, that would be great! I'm glad that billie was even in the special because If Elisabeth Sladen was still alive I think it would have been better if the moment was sarah jane, I think fans would have liked that as well, instead of 'rose', I'm glad billie was in it though :)

JFrance
JFrance

Bringing Rose Tyler back in The Day of the Doctor would of been pointless. Billie Piper was great as The Moment and The Moment was a lot more important character than Rose.   

IamTheDoctorBasicallyRun
IamTheDoctorBasicallyRun

Rose and Meta - crisis spinoff? That would be totally pointless! I think that a sci-fi mystery series about paternoster gang or a unit spinoff would be more interesting...

Ivegotnewkidneys on the 23rd
Ivegotnewkidneys on the 23rd

I'll be honest I wanted this when I was a kid and having rewatched New Earth recently I have to say Dam Bille looks Stunning 

Leggy
Leggy

Ten and Rose - the golden years of new Who - well until the brilliant Donna turned up that is. 

Chris502
Chris502

I wonder why DOTD credits her as rose at the end..

NatalyaHaner
NatalyaHaner

A spinoff with Rose and Metacrisis Ten would be awesome if they were members of Torchwood in Pete's world

Whovian
Whovian


I'm not a Rose fan and I didn't think there was any real chemistry between Rose and Ten. I'm desperate for a good-quality spin-off to fill the many months without new episodes... just not this. Bring back Donna or Amy (+ Rory) and then I'll be happy ;)

fluttergamer
fluttergamer

@MrsUnderhill  THAT'S why there was no Rose/Ten or an apology in The Girl In the Fireplace! Moffat wrote that one!

TheDreamer
TheDreamer

Yes... in fact, I would be. Well... it's not that I'm opposed to it, it just that I don't see the point in either one. But, in the case of rose/meta doctor, the thought of a human meta doctor trying to be the doctor and doing doctor stuff rubs me the wrong way - we already have 1 Doctor Who series, we don't need a wannabe one on the side.

LordRassilon
LordRassilon

@ahunter8056  

The former is less interesting, to be honest. A period mini-seires, in alien, or supernatural investigation, set in the 1930s, similar to Jago and Litefoot, could be entertaining, and is more feasible for audio format. It would be, in a way, like OTR, such as The Shadow.


Human Ten, and Rose, with her dysfunctional family, would be more like Eastenders+Sliders. It just doesn't have the appeal that other settings, and characters have; and honestly, I found Rose a boring companion, her mother irritating, and would have rather seen more of Pete Tyler.


The post-Cybus world may be good for a miniseries, focused on rebuilding, using alien technology; but not a a full series. Where would you even want to go with that?


All I can picture is a copy-Doctor, trying to find a way to leave the planet, on which he is exiled, probably b building some kind of time cabinet, similar to what Magnus built in the 51st century, using the knowledge of Gallfreyan science, combined with the technology left behind by parallel-Torchwod. perhaps even making a new Timelord society, but honestly, I don't picture the people of that world cooperating with the latter; nor do I see any Doctor, even a copy, wanting to remain in one place for an length of time.

Dannie Madsen
Dannie Madsen

That would be in 5 or 10 years. Wouldn't it be better as soon as possible? The longer they wait, the older they are.

stargazer0118
stargazer0118

@Rani Nose  exactly. I just don't see David doing it, maybe an episode or 2, but more? Nope. I think he's moved on.

Dannie Madsen
Dannie Madsen

You don't know the slightest what will happen in the future. Maybe it will happen.

MJJ
MJJ

@JFrance  Agreed. And it was a wonderful opportunity for Bille to remind us of Rose, just by being there, while playing The Moment as Bad Wolf Girl.

WhoLocked
WhoLocked

@JFrance  I agree, Rose and Meta lived happily ever after in a parallel universe. That's not even worthy of post script of a minisode. Piper as the Moment however worked well, and provided a link between 'Bad Wolf' and the 10th Doctor - what more was needed? I wouldn't mind a return of the Moment in some context, but the Rose/Meta storyline is so done.

Liana21
Liana21

That could be interesting, a parallel Torchwood with Rose, Meta-Ten and a parallel Jack

DW_girl
DW_girl

@Whovian But Donna has all her memory wiped. If she was brought back, it would ruin her ending.

TheCapaldiMasterplan
TheCapaldiMasterplan

@Whovian  Maybe if Melody Malone were to ever have a series, we could have Amy and Rory return? Perhaps River bumped into them whilst investigating some mystery in the 1940s... *twiddles moustache*

Rani Nose
Rani Nose

@Dannie Madsen  There's a big difference between not knowing the slightest about what will happen and having a pretty good idea of what may happen.  Tennant and Piper are too busy in their careers to step down to a spin-off series and Tennant is too much of a fan to ever take a role that distracts from the main show.  That said, it would not surprise me in the least if someday, maybe give it several more years, Rose and Meta 10 in one episode or a season-finale two-parter.  It is not hard to imagine a story where the Doctor, with searching for Gallifrey on his mind, somehow detects a weak Time Lord signal of some sort that takes him to Pete's World.  An older Tennant, playing a Doctor with a Time Lord's memories and human frailties and helping out the current Doctor could make for an interesting story.