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Best of Matt Smith: Victory of the Daleks

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Across the next couple of months Doctor Who TV is running a series of polls to celebrate Matt Smith’s era. We want you to cast your votes on every episode and at the end we’ll be comprising a list to find the top scoring.

We continue with 2010′s Victory of the Daleks. All you have to do is rate the episode with your score out of 10, so get voting and join us again tomorrow for the next episode.

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286 comments
smithian
smithian

Far, far too rushed by the end. Really promising at first - great setting, delightful mischievous Daleks... right up until they get to the cheap set of a spaceship. Suddenly day-saving spitfires arrive outfitted with space engines, shields and lasers installed in what, 20 minutes? Add in the syrupy emotional epiphany of Professor Bracewell and Ian McNeice's OTT Churchill parody and it just fell flat for me.

Balatsoukas Pavlos
Balatsoukas Pavlos

Forgetting the horrible re-design of the Daleks, this is actually pretty good! A major dilemma for the Doctor ("Kill the Daleks now and destroy Earth, or let them go and spawn another army and let the Earth be"), which, him being so fond of us, lead to a whole new race of pure Daleks. On the down side, I found the stop-the-bomb-with-love thingy (later shown again in 'Closing Time') was stupid and pretentious... An 8 from me...

SEDAKRO XIV
SEDAKRO XIV

As a big fan of Mark Gattis's writing, I found this episode very enjoyable. Especially the Dalek v Spitfire dog fight in space!!! That's why I give this episode 9/10...


Petrolheaded Wholockian
Petrolheaded Wholockian

I really don't get why this episode gets so much hate. It was good and was excellently performed by Matt Smith. Some people really hate the paradigm daleks but, if they were kept we would've learnt the true purpose of the eternal which could have made a great episode. 

Adric the Genius
Adric the Genius

In this episode, the Daleks were not brutal enough.  This is the same for most of Moffat era Dalek episodes.  In my memory, there is no instance where the Daleks have been shown to kill anyone with their death rays (the effect of showing the skeleton) in Moffat's tenure.

DawnTime
DawnTime

7/10 OK does not make me go WOW.

gunslinger19
gunslinger19

6/10, though I would've given it 5/10 if I hadn't given beast 5 and I significantly prefer this episode. I didn't mind the spitfires in space and I love the new daleks, particularly after their slight Asylum repaint, even more that the time war daleks! but almost nothing could make up for that bracewell 'power of love' ending! it ruined an amazing episode with an original (mainly) storyline, an epic historic atmosphere and of course, the amazingly portrayed Churchill. such a missed opportunity.

TheWholeMcCoy
TheWholeMcCoy

Eventhough the new daleks looked like Rainbow Drops (their a type of sweet) I found the world war two setting very effective and Winston Churchill was played beautifully. 7/10

awkward912
awkward912

8/10. It's really not that bad, and the big Daleks are stunning whatever anyone says to the contrary. 

Whovian123
Whovian123

I think it deserves at least 7 out of 10

JJ2000
JJ2000

I gave the episode a 3 - Poor. I first watched it and thought it was truely terrible, especially the Star Wars bit. But then after watching it 3 years later, I found that it wasn't as bad as I originally thought. I still do not like the star wars bit and there were several flaws and I'm sure it could have been a lot better. The score of 3 (may seem very low), is a sort of average. Episodes have to be literally really good to get a 7 or higher, etc. :)

KingoftheOod4450
KingoftheOod4450

This had two major flaws but otherwise was pretty awesome. The love resolution and the dalek redesign. That aside, great battle spectacle, very tough side to the new doctor introduced. Watching him lash out at the Dalek was breath-taking. Nice change that the Daleks escaped after the all-extinct-except-theyre-not theme of the RTD era. 7/10

TARDlSkey
TARDlSkey

7/10. Enjoyable, but not perfect. Though, surprisingly, I don't consider the Paradigm Daleks a problem.

WhoPotterVian
WhoPotterVian

9/10- Great episode spoilt by the Paradigm Daleks,which look like they've come out of a Disney cartoon.

ClassicWhovian
ClassicWhovian

I genuinely feel that this deserves the 7 I gave it-Matt's acting is fantastic, and there are a lot of strong moments and plot points, that are not totally spoiled by the obvious negatives.

Strontium
Strontium

3/10. Not that good if I'm honest. I just don't like the 'one ship survived' excuse being used AGAIN.


That said, I did find a nice animation on YouTube (The Dalek that Time Forgot). It's not clear who made it or if it is official, but either way I like to think that it happened, as it makes this episode seem a little bit better.

ahunter8056
ahunter8056

I scored it an 8/10. One of my favourite episodes of Series 5, although the terrible Dalek redesign knocks it down.

TheCyberDoctor is Undead
TheCyberDoctor is Undead

7/10

The episode was good, but the new Daleks spoiled it. Why did they think that changing the design was a good idea? I mean, it doesn't make them scarier it just makes them look hunchbacked and unthreatening. Also, why would the Daleks themselves think their design needed changing and, also, why on earth would they want to be painted bright colours.

At least they kept the normal ones which, to be honest, didn't need to be updated any way.

WhoFanNo565
WhoFanNo565

6/10

Good, but not really good! 

Also, first comment using LiveFire! :D

Lord Castabarus
Lord Castabarus

The episode itself was quite good, but what spoiled it was the introduction of those Power Ranger Daleks.

ClaraOswald
ClaraOswald

5/10 for me. It's probably my least favourite out of the series 5 episodes, to be honest. It's not bad or anything, it just wasn't very memorable to me. I tend to forget about it.

Mikeyboss182
Mikeyboss182

6/10 - Above average

A pretty meh story in my opinion but Winston Churchill and the new Paradigm Daleks were cool.


So far:


The Eleventh Hour - 10/10

The Beast Below - 3/10

Victory of the Daleks - 6/10

JamesCresswell
JamesCresswell

Not a bad episode.  Certainly not as terrible as many people would have you believe. To be honest, I prefer Victory to Asylum. The only downside of course was the horrible Dalek redesign. I can understand why they thought it would be a good idea. But no. If it aint broke don't fix it.

As for the episode itself. This is where Matt Smith started to nail it as The Doctor.

sushigal007
sushigal007

Very enjoyable. Ridiculous, yes, but in a good way. I also liked the parallels to Power of the Daleks and the fact that they escaped at the end, so there's no more need for any Time War miracle survivors, who get less miraculous the more they show up. However I did have to knock a few points off for the power of love ending and the Dalek redesign. 7/10.

ToastyWaffles
ToastyWaffles

I honestly don't remember a lot from the episode. I think if it weren't for the new Daleks, a lot more people would've enjoyed it. I'm not sure whether to give VotD a 6 or a 7. I've given it a 7 for now as I'm feeling generous... but I may regret that upon rewatching the episode. We'll see.

Regarding the New Dalek Paradigm, I think they should've only introduced the red Dalek Drone and white Dalek supreme in this episode, and slowly sprinkle the other Dalek ranks throughout their appearances in TBB, TWORS and TDA - to help ease them in. Also they should've been given a colour-muted/metallic finish from the beginning, and shouldn't have that weird design on the back.

HisNameIsTheDoctor
HisNameIsTheDoctor

It was the first episode that I watched and I said, "Wow. I didn't like that." I'm a pretty easy ranker, but this was just...bad to me. I loved the Daleks with the Union Jack on them, but the Supreme Daleks, not so much.


So far:


The Eleventh Hour - 10/10

The Beast Below - 7/10

Victory of the Daleks - 4/10

lukashcartoon
lukashcartoon

I thought it was incredibly fun episode. Something about the Dalek painted olive green with the UK flag on it, struck a really cool alternate universe vibe from me.

Personally, I liked the fact that the Daleks got rid of the human DNA part. I liked my fascist squid in a tank to be pure! Amy once again proves her worth as she recognized the correct type of emotions to prevent Braceswell from exploding.

That and they have Spitfires in Space: How cool is that! The acting was brilliant all around. Solid, solid tale.

Stott
Stott

Here's what I had to say on my 'Doctor Who Thing Wordpress' blog:

Episode three of the Moffat era, and we get to ‘Victory of the Daleks’, an episode that has had the vitriol of many a fan spewed its way. I think that’s very unfair, and a great deal of it can be boiled down to ‘Don’t like new Power Ranger Daleks, WAH!’. Personally, I don’t mind the bright colours; they’re bold and visually interesting; it’s the hunchback that riles me. ANYWAY. This has a lot to enjoy; Daleks serving tea – the Doctors rage as he beats one of the Ironsides with a massive spanner thingy – Spitfires! In Space! Attacking a flying saucer! – The Doctor facing down his deadliest foes with a Jammy bloomin’ Dodger!

It’s not perfect. There are things wrong with it. It really feels like it should have been a two parter. But come on, there’s plenty to love in there.

DoctorPotterHolmes007
DoctorPotterHolmes007

Is this judging on how good Matts performance was or episode? Must be episode!

DavidFeetenby
DavidFeetenby

Slowly grew on me over time.
At first all that sticks in my mind is those power ranger daleks and the OTT spitfires in space.

But after a while you can start to appreciate some of the performances put in to the episode
Smith on top form like always
Gillan is solid enough.
Ian mcneice as churchill is brilliant. He plays it so believably.

And Bill paterson as bracewell. "They made me?!" A fantastic perfomance, easily the best part of the episode was bracewell. I wish we could see him again, if only because this episode made me watch lots of other things with bill paterson (I was not let down)


Over-all though, those daleks can't be forgiven imo so that has to take a chunk out of the mark
6.5/10 :)

Temporal_Tomato
Temporal_Tomato

My opinion of this episode has softened during these past few years. It's a 7 from me. 

(Also, The new comment system is better than I was expecting, and I took it as an opportunity to update my DP, but decided to make it more of a sequel to the first one and feature the 2nd and 3rd Doctors again... XD)

GaryKingston
GaryKingston

This is a rather average episode for me although the way they did Winston Churchill was done beautifully. I didn't like The Doctors rage at the Dalek because it felt like a poor version so the dalek rage with the Ninth Doctoe in Dalek. A decent episode won some strong positives and negatives that result in an average balance

sontaran17
sontaran17

It's a Pretty Good story, Brilliant Acting, and I dont really mind the Paradigm Daleks, there backstory was brilliant, and the design IMO isnt that bad


8/10

Doctor Capaldi
Doctor Capaldi

8/10 because it's a good story, good script, great acting, it has Churchill, however the Paradrigm Daleks were undrused and way too colourful!

Bollyknickers
Bollyknickers

7/10 from me.  Not exceptional, not awful.  Some embarrassing moments, some brilliant moments. 

edoe101
edoe101

7/10,  because I enjoy this episode a lot, the paradigm Daleks were wasted potential, they should've just tuned down the colours... a bit and the acting is pretty good, also, Churchill. 


Also the way Amy and Bracewell say Daleks is a deciding factor.

DrOswald
DrOswald

I gave this episode a 7/10, because while it is enjoyable I just seem to find faults with it and can't full enjoy. It is my least favourite episode of Series 5

PeterGecko2
PeterGecko2

5/10

It had it's moments but it mostly felt very average. Dalek stories shouldn't be average, they must be exciting. 

JolomontheCube
JolomontheCube

A 6 I think. It had potential but it was let down by the length and... interesting dalek designs

Romanadvoratrelundar
Romanadvoratrelundar

I really liked the idea behind this and honestly thought the Dalek design was ok (not ideal, but fine) however the story just didn't seem to have much of a structure. I almost feel as though there should have been a part 2 with some real conflict as opposed to the Daleks just running away.

smithian
smithian

@Adric the Genius  The Doctor gets shot in "The Big Bang" and the "The Last Day" mini-sode set before "The Day of the Doctor" depicts a Dalek killing the POV character point blank.

TheFirstMaster
TheFirstMaster

@awkward912  I know that everyone has their opinion, etcetera, but personally, I think the Paradigm Daleks were shocking. [[New Daleks! Now in Rainbow Colours!]] (Available from all good toy stores, accessories sold separately, batteries not included)

michaelward291
michaelward291

What were the flaws? I'm not trying to be funny or rude I actually don't know.

GaryKingston
GaryKingston

I agree with you completely but that wasn't always the case in the classic series. Some of the Dalek stories in the original series were rather average as well. My personal favourite Dalek story is 'Dalek' in Series 1. It is in my opinion the best Dalek story ever

PeterGecko2
PeterGecko2

Exactly the same as me! 'Dalek' is one of the best episodes ever aswell as the best dalek story.

DalekAgent
DalekAgent

@GaryKingston  you should listen to Jubilee - the audio (by the same writer) that was the basis for Dalek. 10x better, easily. Give it a go :D