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Barrowman on Jack’s Future, Capaldi Critics

captain-jack-barrowman-capaldiAnyone still holding out hope for Captain Jack to return, don’t hold your (deep) breath.

John Barrowman was asked on Magic radio if there’s any chance for the character to come back in the new series and he replied: “I haven’t been asked. If I had a TARDIS I would jump in, go back in time, change [the producer's] minds and go forward and play him again.”

Earlier in the week he said: “When somebody comes in and takes over from the team that were there when you were there they tend to cut a lot of stuff and go in their direction. If you’re not in that plan then there’s nothing you can do about it. That’s a BBC decision, it’s not my decision.”

“I would love to do it, but I might never be on Doctor Who or Torchwood again.”

Barrowman shared some thoughts on Capaldi and moved to silence any critics: “I know Peter as an actor because he was on Torchwood: Children of Earth and I think he will be an awesome Doctor. He’s a wonderful actor, he’s also Scottish so it holds in the line of David Tennant, myself and other Scots who have been involved in the Whovian world.

“And for those critics who sit behind their keyboards and say ‘Capaldi’s not going to be good…’ Shut up! Because you’ll watch the show anyway. You go on the journey the Doctor takes you on no matter who is playing him.”

Step back in time...

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208 comments
Polyphase
Polyphase

Actually I'm yet to read any negative views on Capaldi which surprised me. Because of his age I expected the fangirls to freak out :)

The8thDoctor
The8thDoctor

Well said John  unfortunately there are many fans who are not happy unless they are bitching.

stargazer0118
stargazer0118

He is busy on Arrow this coming season in October.

G_Unitt
G_Unitt

There was some really shocking episodes of Torchwood, but Jack Harkness was always a great character throughout. I still lust for a new series of Torchwood. I always thought it'd be good if Idris Elba played a UNIT general who was moved to a dodgy Northern branch of Torchwood. I imagined a really dishevelled Jack Harkness coming to tell him he'd been moved.

We need a Who spinoff! Either bring back Torchwood, or make one with Kate Lethbridge-Stewart. The latter would be amazing.

OliverTrussell
OliverTrussell

I found Jack to be an immensely interesting character caught in an immensely interesting dilemma with the whole immortality thing.

The Living Angel
The Living Angel

I know I am in the minority but I really hopethat Jack never returns, I could never warm to him, probably because I could never warm to John Barrowman.


ThisIsMoog
ThisIsMoog

Do a new, fan-made, BBC-approved series of Torchwood (but don't make it anything like series 1 or 2).

DrWhoBoy123
DrWhoBoy123

I have literally just finished torchwood...yes I know it's a bit late...and it was fantastic! just brilliant. I hope so much it makes a return. Good on you john:)

RoryMcGarrett1
RoryMcGarrett1

Now we will see who was watching for the plot and who was watching because of hot actor. I loved Capaldi since the moment they announced him coz he is amazing actor!

RoryMcGarrett1
RoryMcGarrett1

I remember when they announced Matt as the Doctor and everyone was like "he's too young, not experienced, too goofy, he'll be awful Doctor, bad choice" blah blah blah. And now? All the haters loved him anyway. I think that Peter Capaldi's going to be an amazing Doctor. Rough, harsh and very different, but the show needs different.



Mercy Reborn2
Mercy Reborn2

I think a few fans who were only watching because the doctor was young and cute have mostly left but  some might stick around to see what hes  like

Mercy Reborn2
Mercy Reborn2

I dont mind an older doctor maybe Jack would look great with the new one

DrainOfMorbius
DrainOfMorbius

We could trade out Paternoster for Harkness... So much better.

TomTurner66
TomTurner66

Nobody is saying Capaldi won't be good. Most fans think he'll be great or even the best ever. What's Barrowman on about?

MrsUnderhill
MrsUnderhill

Where on Earth did he find those critics sitting behind their keyboards and saying bad things about Capaldi? I've been to a lot of places but have yet to see anything but praise, excitement and anticipation for the Capaldi's Doctor. Seems like the fandom is united in loving him in advance. :) 

As for Jack returning - nothing in the DW logic would prevent that. He's immortal, yet he can age.  If they want to tell another story with Jack, they absolutely can. I wouldn't object to a cameo in a 10th anniversary of NewWho special.

MrGuymanwatch
MrGuymanwatch

Of all the characters created in the last 9 years of the show, Jack is by far the most suitable one to actually return on a regular basis. He's an immortal, time-travelling and charismatic action hero who defends Earth from aliens, he's like a perfect new-series equivalent of the Brigadier. And yet, he has been criminally under-served in the show proper. People say that the show is about change; I totally agree, but of all the new series companions, Jack is so far the only to have had no closure at all. His character still has so much more potential, and yet just sits there... unfinished.




I also don't really get the reasoning that there has to be such a vital story requirement for him to return, when River Song has popped up in several episodes with no real story justification (not saying she hurt them, but she didn't *have* to be there). Like River, Jack's seriously the kind of character who can just ride along in the TARDIS for a few episodes and join the crew on their adventures, with no massive story requirement at all.



While Torchwood's hiatus is frustrating, even more frustrating is how easily Jack could return, and yet hasn't done so for 6 years (bar a short cameo in The End of Time). He's a great character (especially so after being fleshed out in Torchwood), it really saddens me to see how shunned he has been in recent years.

ahunter8056
ahunter8056

A nice little interview. I'd love to see Captain Jack back, whether it be in Doctor Who or Torchwood (though I'd prefer Doctor Who). He is a brilliant and very interesting character.

MrRazza, General Rogue Timelord Identifier
MrRazza, General Rogue Timelord Identifier

I think we have to be careful when looking at Captain Jack as a character. It seems that very often he is just viewed as little more than a walking innuendo, and to see him as that is to miss the point of the character. He is a man from a future society where sexual preferences are unimportant - one we seem to be slowly and hopefully moving towards today - and so, much like River Song, naturally flirts with people. But, like River Song, there is a lot more to him. He is troubled, several (two? I can't remember exactly offhand) years of his life are gone from his memory, and when we first meet him is effectively on the rocks, having to live as a con artist to get by. After viewing the consequences of his actions, he endangers (and nearly kills) himself saving an awful lot of people including the Doctor and Rose, and is pleased to begin travelling with them - and ultimately figures out the true function of Satellite 5 in the two parter. He is killed by Daleks attempting to earn the Doctor just a few more minutes, and by this time means enough to Rose for her to resurrect him. 

(I'll stick to DW appearances for now) When he returns he has been living a difficult and unique, unescapable life, different to everyone around him and away from anyone who could understand, before spending a year locked up in a flying ship. Like other reappearances here we don't get too much development for the Stolen Earth/Journey's End, but we see him leading the charge to bring back the Doctor, rushing to find him and (ineffectively) holding the Dalek "boys and girls" to ransom. In Torchwood, to summarise, he's had dark and horrifying encounters, speant years buried underground, lost his lover, killed his grandson and I heard he did some stuff in America that may or may not be canonical (that's bound to cause an existential crisis) - not to mention the revelations about his past including a brother who inherently hates him.

Basically, he is more than the swashbuckling, flirty strong man a lot of people seem to view him as. He has an ingrained sense of what is good that has been challenged and questioned endless times, deep and real relationships with other characters (that have also been challenged and questioned endless times) and a much troubled history. Essentially, he is a very deep character, and that exterior that seems to rub people up the wrong way is not all there is to him. As for those areas of the fandom who seem him as part of some sort of "agenda"... Well, I tend not to dignify such complaints with a one word response, let alone a 3 paragraph essay

MatthewBagnall
MatthewBagnall

Whenever someone says "You're going to watch it anyway" that is when I avoid it like the plague. When those involved believe you are so trained to watch whatever they pump out without questioning it - that's when they lose the connection with me.

steverogersandfriends
steverogersandfriends

I would rather have a classic who companion come back. I don't really care for ol' Captain Jack. But I do agree with his comment about Peter Capaldi.

MrRazza, General Rogue Timelord Identifier
MrRazza, General Rogue Timelord Identifier

“And for those critics who sit behind their keyboards and say ‘Capaldi’s not going to be good…’ Shut up!"

A perfect summary of my attitude, John!

Should Captain Jack return? I, of course, have little to add to the many comments below mine, and will echo the sentiments repeated several times already - it depends on the story. I would definitely like to see him return, but I would not want to see the opportunity not utilised as well as it could have been, and would by no means be devastated if he did not return. The thing with returning characters is you have to be careful not to make the return simply a fan service, it can feel cheesy and even underwhelming.



ColbyOrrick
ColbyOrrick

@Polyphase There have been quite a few negative comments about Capaldi ... 99.98% of which were from 12 year old girls ... sooo..

ThisIsMoog
ThisIsMoog

@Mercy Reborn2 Those fans are annoyingly superficial. There are so many amazing things about the show that it would be stupid to turn off just because the actor is over 30.

andyot7777
andyot7777

@TomTurner66 Tons of people are against Capaldi. It's just that as a reverse of the norm, us positive people are more vocal about liking him than before when it was more negative people being vocal about Matt even though way more people liked him than disliked him. It's a matter of the positive/negative being vocal and while the most vocal with the 12th Doctor think that he is going to be amazing, there are a lot who don't like him for some odd reason. Which is stupid, really, because we've yet to see him in action.

robdw
robdw

@MrGuymanwatch  He's not really been shunned, though - they wanted him for A Good Man Goes to War but he was off doing Miracle Day. It's just one of those things. He's a great character, but there haven't been that many episodes where he could have been arbitrarily thrown in. 21st Century Earth is very much his home, so you'd have... what, The Eleventh Hour, The Lodger, Closing Time, The Power of Three and The Bells of Saint John? "P.S. Immortal time agent" doesn't quite fit in any of them - The Bells of Saint John best, but it's clutter when you're trying to establish a new companion.


There's a couple more "getting the team together" episodes. The Impossible Astronaut could've worked - could've worked quite well, actually - but a bit of a distraction, there's already umpteen plots jiggling about in there without playing catch-up with Captain Jack Harkness. Asylum of the Daleks, ditto, and I think UNIT was a better choice than Torchwood for the Day of the Doctor. More historical, more effectual. In a story first approach (and Moffat has said story-first is how they do it) A Good Man Goes to War really was the best opportunity they've had so far.


I'd like a return for Captain Jack, too - I think he'd play brilliantly off Capaldi and it's a shame we never saw him with Smith (next anniversary, please!) - but it's not criminal, he's not been shunned, and he's certainly not unfinished.

EdWhovian
EdWhovian

@MatthewBagnall I'm with you MatthewBagnall. thats just lazy saying we'll eat anything thats dished up to us. Capaldi has to prove himself, the same as Matt Smith had to (and succeeded in my opinion)

KoseMoor
KoseMoor

@MatthewBagnall so as a fan of doctor who you wouldn't give at least one episode a try with a new doctor? I think that was his point, if you're a real doctor who fan, you watch it for the show and the character "the doctor". He's changed 11(or 12) times before this, why would that change a true fan's mind on the show. Especially when you have triple A actor like capaldi playing the doctor. Change comes with doctor who, any fan of the show knows that, people who don't like change, probably shouldn't watch the show. But its that very change that has kept it around for 50 years, and probably 50 more

ahunter8056
ahunter8056

@MatthewBagnall He is right though to be fair. Whether it's Doctor Who or a different TV programme, or even video games. There will always be people who will always complain. Yet they still watch every episode of those TV programmes or buy those games.

A Friend of the Ood
A Friend of the Ood

@MatthewBagnall Most fans will keep watching. It has nothing to do with being "trained" or whatever, he just knows that fans aren't going to stop watching just because there's a new Doctor.

KingOfTheInterWebs has Kidneys
KingOfTheInterWebs has Kidneys

@MrRazza, the Newly Qualified Omega Identifier I think it'd be nice for him to return at some point, he's still got stories and mysteries to be told and explained about him. He's a very nice character and it'd just generally be nice to see him again. I don't hold high hopes for his return because Moffat and the rest of the Doctor Who production team will go in the direction they want to go, it's their decision, they're the producers, writers and directors. I'm sure what ever they do will be grand but if that doesn't involve Captain Jack, it's a shame but so be it. However I do remember reading that he was intended to be in a Good Man Goes to War but was scrapped because John wasn't available, though because I can't even remember where I read it, I'm taking it with a pinch of salt until I can see whether it's true or was just a rumour going around.

Captain_British
Captain_British

@andyot7777 The only complaints I've seen about Capaldi is that he is "too old." Mostly on Facebook comments amidst the usual slew of "BRING BACK TENNANT." That's normally coming from the teenage girls and housewives that only watched Tennant and Smith because they were "hot" Doctors.

MatthewBagnall
MatthewBagnall

@EdWhovian


This ^


I don't mind if they had said 'give capaldi a try' but it does seem like they expect for people to just watch whoever is the actor. They need a good actor who does well as the Doctor to prove it. As such like the rest I shall be judging him based off the episodes I watch.

MatthewBagnall
MatthewBagnall

@KoseMoor


That isn't what John Barrowman is saying... he is saying that you will watch whatever actor they put on screen.


I'm all for giving new actors a chance, but essentially saying that whatever actor they choose to give to us we will sit and watch regardless of quality seems silly.

MatthewBagnall
MatthewBagnall

@ahunter8056 


Yes there are people that do that... but generalising makes it seem he believes everyone will do that when it is simply not the case.

MatthewBagnall
MatthewBagnall

@A Friend of the Ood




While that is indeed true, I still feel that saying "you're going to watch anyway" seems a bit obnoxious. I understand that people should give Capaldi a chance - however automatically assuming every fan of the show will stay if they dislike the interpretation of the Doctor is a little foolish.


I remember the original series for example losing fans during the run of certain Doctors. So coming out and saying "You're going to watch anyway" probably isn't the best way of phrasing it.  


He probably should have said something along the lines of;

"I've personally heard good news about Capaldi and his role and their have been many good reviews, I feel that those who judge him before the episode might be surprised and find he actually brings a lot to the role if they decide to tune in. You should give it a try before critiquing him"

A Friend of the Ood
A Friend of the Ood

@MatthewBagnall @A Friend of the Ood “You’ll watch the show anyway. You go on the journey the Doctor takes you on no matter who is playing him.”

That doesn't sound obnoxious at all to me.

"Automatically assuming every fan of the show will stay if they dislike the interpretation of the Doctor is a little foolish."


And how do they know if they dislike Capaldi's interpretation of the Doctor? The people he's talking about hate Capaldi because they think he's too old and he isn't Matt Smith. They haven't seen enough to know if they dislike his interpretation.

MatthewBagnall
MatthewBagnall

@A Friend of the Ood 






"That doesn't sound obnoxious at all to me"


Sounds a bit big-headed to me. As already pointed out their were several who stopped watching the original series due to dislike of a certain actor playing the role. The same may happen here, as a majority of 'new who' fans believe the Doctor should be an 'action hero'


"And how do they know if they dislike Capaldi's interpretation of the Doctor? The people he's talking about hate Capaldi because they think he's too old and he isn't Matt Smith. They haven't seen enough to know if they dislike his interpretation."


He didn't choose to clarify, as such he was referring to everyone in a general sense.

A Friend of the Ood
A Friend of the Ood

@MatthewBagnall @A Friend of the Ood "He didn't choose to clarify, as such he was referring to everyone in a general sense."

The only people who could hate Capaldi hate him because they think he's too old. Series 8 hasn't even started. There's no way anyone could possibly hate him because of how he plays the part until we actually see him.