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By guest contributor Toby Hankin.

Back in May 2012, a certain Jenna-Louise Coleman (now just Jenna Coleman) was cast as companion to the Eleventh Doctor in the Seventh Series of the show’s revival run. She was not too well known, as she had never really taken on any major, iconic roles. In 2005, she had been cast as Jasmine Thomas in the ITV soap Emmerdale, then she went on to appear in shows such as Waterloo Road, Room at the Top and ITV’s Titanic. Not long into her career, she made her film debut in Captain America. Not a huge part, but she was still credited for it.

Only 5 months after she had been confirmed as the Doctor’s sidekick, she made a surprise appearance in the Series 7 opener Asylum of the Daleks, about 5 months earlier than expected! This was a pleasant surprise for most of us, giving us a taster of what the actress would be like in the show. But then it turned out she was actually a Dalek and she died. This sparked confusion all across the Whoniverse. The only clue we got to her true identity was her dying words: “Run you clever boy and remember“.

doctor-who-the-snowmen-gallery-(44)Come Christmas, Jenna makes her first proper appearance as Clara Oswin Oswald, a feisty, brave hearted Victorian Governess/Barmaid who had some connection to Jenna’s other character, Oswin Oswald. She seemingly had no connection however to Oswin, which again sparked confusion. Surely Moffat would have been able to cast another actress in Oswin’s place with the snap of his fingers? He was most definitely planning something. Something big. Later on in the episode, Clara helped the mourning Doctor defeat the Great Intelligence, after being invited aboard the TARDIS. She then dies, uttering the same last words as Oswin. “Run you clever boy and remember“. This episode ended with a modern version of Clara walking over the grave of the Victorian Clara and the Doctor setting out to discover just who or what she is. At the end of The Snowmen, a brief Coming Soon trailer was released and we could quite clearly see that Jenna Coleman would return to the show and the modern version of Clara. No, not Clara Oswin Oswald. Clara Oswald.

Obviously, we all watched Series 7 Part 2 and Clara returned. Of course, there was more mystery that shrouded her. So, the Doctor invites her onboard the TARDIS at the end of The Bells of Saint John and shows her a wide variety of creatures, times and places: from Ice Warriors to a haunted house. There was still no clue to her identity. This was  All until Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS we don’t know much, but in that episode, we learn that she is not aware of her “past lives” and is in fact a bit creeped out when the Doctor confronts her about it.

Then things change. In The Name of the Doctor, we learn just who Clara is. She is the woman who saves the Doctor from the Great Intelligence. She jumps into the Doctor’s time stream and scatters herself a thousand ways, creating different versions of herself throughout the Doctor’s time line. After her main storyline is over, we see her return as Clara in the fiftieth anniversary special: The Day of the Doctor (alongside Matt Smith, David Tennant and John Hurt). We now know that she no longer looks after the Maitland children, but teaches English at Coal Hill secondary school! She didn’t play the biggest part in the fiftieth, but that soon changed in The Time of the Doctor. We see her convince the Time Lords to grant the Doctor a new set of regenerations, therefore making the next 50 years possible! The Doctor regenerates right at the end into Peter Capaldi, leading the duo literally crashing into Series 8!

So Jenna Coleman will return for her first full series on August 23rd 2014, alongside Peter Capaldi and Samuel Anderson.

So now let’s ponder some of the reasons why many people like Clara so much:

Creating an Interesting Storyline

As we all know, Clara brought something new into the history of Doctor Who. Clara didn’t just help create the main storyline: She was the storyline! I think the whole “Impossible Girl” arc was simply genius beyond words. Many will moan about this (I know someone who never stops moaning about this), but I think the main story arc was strong and gripping, leaving you wanting more and more each week, eventually paying off in The Name of the Doctor, where we see Clara interact with all the Doctor’s past incarnations.

Keeping the Doctor on his toes

When Jenna was cast as Clara, Moffat said Clara would “lead him on his merriest dance yet”, which he meant. Clara is fun, flirty and very energetic. That’s what we like in a companion. Someone who can talk faster than the Doctor, even sometimes outsmarting him. Jenna delivers just that playing Clara.

Fresh Romance for the Doctor

Some of you will disagree with this, but I think it was a good idea that Clara had a bit of a crush on the Doctor! The Doctor is not a boring old miser with a box! He is a living and breathing being who is allowed a bit of romance in his life, even if it is Clara! They get on well and like each other a lot, so I don’t know why they shouldn’t have the odd flirt and be a bit closer than friends. I think if 11 had stayed longer, we would have seen the Doctor and Clara’s relationship develop more, which would have been good.

A Useful Companion

Those saying that Clara is just a useless companion, then you couldn’t be more wrong. As I said earlier, Clara has played a vital part in the episodes that she has been in. Let’s just go through why she isn’t useless:

  • Defeating the Daleks (Asylum of the Daleks).
  • Defeating the GI (The Snowmen).
  • Tracking down Miss Kizlet (The Bells of St John)
  • Defeating the Old God (The Rings of Akhaten).
  • Talking Skaldak out of launching nuclear weapons (Cold War).
  • Helping the Doctor realise the Crooked Man’s situation (Hide).
  • Smashing the organ (The Crimson Horror).
  • Saving the Doctor from the GI (The Name of the Doctor).
  • Talking the Doctor(s!) out of destroying Gallifrey, therefore being the reason they didn’t destroy it (The Day of the Doctor).
  • Talking the Time Lords into granting the Doctor his new regeneration cycle. MAKING THE NEXT 50 YEARS POSSIBLE! (The Time of the Doctor).

So seeing those, I don’t see why anyone would bother calling her a useless companion, or saying she’s not as productive as Amy or Rose etc.

Clara’s Theme

This may not be the most important point, but I think it’s worth a mention. I really like Clara’s theme! I think it captures your ear and just soothes you in a way the other themes don’t. It’s also the cue that signals the amazing Jenna Coleman. What’s not to like about it?

Conclusion

I think Clara is a very strong willed and productive character, who always gets the best of the Doctor. She’s down to Earth and has a great theme. I’m pretty confident that Clara will develop even more with the character of Danny Pink coming into her life and will face the greater challenge of the new Doctor: Peter Capaldi.

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Maiden_Ty_One
Maiden_Ty_One

I don't like Clara. I've got nothing against the actress - she's alright. I just don't like the character, or the way she plays her. I don't find her funny or endearing, I just find her annoying and even slightly arrogant. And this whole 'impossible girl' storyline is absolutely insufferable. I look forward to a time when she departs and 12 gets a more grounded companion with attitude.

Maiden_Ty_One
Maiden_Ty_One

"In the RTD era the companions were companions, not the storyline. Moffat makes the companions have too much involvement with the plot."

Ok, are you serious? Rose? The companion that absorbed some sort of 'time energy' and became a god that then went back and controlled the entire first series? Who the Doctor then fell IN LOVE with (for god's sake) and spent the next two seasons pining over her until she returned and SAVED THE UNIVERSE? (After appearing in every episode of season 4, again, as the main overaching story arc of that series)

Or Donna Noble, the 'most special' woman in the universe? Who was destined to become half-timelord and save the universe (in possibly the most hackneyed and badly-written way imaginable)? 


I'm not a fan of Moffat's writing either, but to imply that Russel T Davies was somehow 'better'? I can't even fathom the thought-process that comes up with that conclusion.

Maiden_Ty_One
Maiden_Ty_One

"I think the whole “Impossible Girl” arc was simply genius beyond words." 


I can only deduce that you don't watch a lot of movies/tv or don't read a lot of books. 


As for it 'paying off' in the final episodes, the part where they digitally inserted Clara into past episodes from Doctor Who's history was one of the worst things I've seen in the revival so far. Seriously, that was terrible. 

And the arrogance of Steven Moffat to rewrite the ENTIRE SHOW'S history - not just his version of it, but the ENTIRE THING going back 50 years - so that the whole show is actually about HIS silly little storyline.....ugh. No thought went into that 'writing' whatsoever.

JakeGreen1
JakeGreen1

I think both arguments have very valid points but clara in my opinion is the most important companion in new who like the first side said she is the reason why galifrey returns and why there is a series 8 of doctor who although she is not my favorite companion (Donna is) this series suggests she may be

AnthonyJohnWoo
AnthonyJohnWoo

I love Clara, but I totally understand where the unpopular opinion is coming from--I intensely disliked huge chunks of season 7.  However, the issues that the unpopular opinion offer are entirely based on the plots in season 7 and almost nothing at all about the character herself.


foxtrotalphaone
foxtrotalphaone

I love Jenna Coleman.  I can't stand Steve Moffat.  Clara Oswald was the only thing that made season seven tolerable.




There are scant few Steve Moffat episodes I like, the best of which, in my opinion, was "Blink".  No arcing in that story, and the introduction of new, original, and quite scary monsters(only for Moffat to exploit and ruin them in subsequent episodes).  And the story was resolved in a logical way.  There were rules by which the characters had to operate, so for the weeping angels that meant keeping their gazes averted from one another.  But they were tricked into staring at each other in the end.


 Contrast that with most of Moffat's other episodes, like Clara's Christmas special, for instance.  How was the story resolved?  By raining tears.  Yes, raining tears.  Of course.  It's so obvious now, I just can't imagine how I could have overlooked that.



  There's also the sonic screwdriver.  Far too often, I think, Moffat writes himself into a corner, and instead of going back and rewriting and improving the story, he just has the doctor pull out his sonic device and sonic the plot forward.


  And the constant story arcing wouldn't be so bad if the climax was good, but with Moffat they never are.  The conclusion of the 'Silence' arc was lame.  The explanation of the multiple Clara Oswalds was lame and followed no logic, or perhaps, had no logic to follow.  It was as bad as the raining tears.  The inexplicable return of the crack in the wall that isn't really in the wall.  Etc. etc...

  What they need to do is have someone go over Moffat's scripts and remove all of the story arcs so that we can have one season of stand alone stories, and make him rewrite the parts where the Doctor uses his screwdriver to move the plot, and so on.  Just one season like that...  That's all I ask...  And more Clara.  She's awesome.  And I love her theme.

DawnTime
DawnTime

I will say it again, I really like the character of Clara. up there with my favs Romana 2 and Sarah, I think we have had this argument before.!?

TheElusiveWhovian
TheElusiveWhovian

I do not like Clara, but I don't dislike her. I am indifferent to her as a character.

The main reason for this is the fact that Clara is pretty generic - brave, smart, feisty and loyal describe most companions, particularly in New Who. Her situation is pretty generic as well, being a twenty-something girl from modern-day England (like we've never seen that before...).

In my mind, she has no individual characteristics. She's a companion, not a person.

VictorWong1
VictorWong1

If I might make a suggestion: certainly Clara, as a character, has shown some growth between "Name" and the two Specials. The real problem is that said growth has been documented in media *other* than the main series.


We see aspects of her character, and her relationship with the TARDIS, not so much in the main episodes as in the mini-sode "Clara and the Tardis" which was part of the Series 7 DVD set. We see her control-freak discomfort come out, not in her scenes with the kids but in the interstitial sketches of the 2013 BBC Proms, when she freaks out at finding herself sitting as a double-bass player. We see some more of her relationship with the Doctor during the BAFTA tribute in 2013, as well as the intro and outro of the Ultimate Guide special.


Such pieces are of course ephemeral, but in terms of measuring Clara's development, particularly her relationship with the Doctor, they have to be taken into account.

Beasts_a_Snarling is Discovering the 3rd Dimension
Beasts_a_Snarling is Discovering the 3rd Dimension

Sigh* I can see both sides of the arguement. But I have to say this to both sides: usefulness, music, and story do not determine if a character is compelling!

When we ask ourselves if we are interested in a character we have to answer a few questions more:

1) Does this character sway me into feeling for them and the situation their in?

In my opinion no. Why? Because the threat or opposition to the character is not strong enough or the plot is to convoluted to just enjoy the episode. It's like a spell; every piece of media needs to keep us with the characters and the plot. If the episode fails to distribute the layers of the plot in a cohesive manner or just lazily handles the conflict; the episode falls apart.

2) Does this character contribute to our enjoyment of this episode?

Yes, actually. Clara is a very enjoyable character and has a lot of charm to her. She asks questions we want answered, she is geinune, and is played very well by Jenna.

3) Does the conflict of an episode develope our character?

No. Why? Because instead of learning about our character through the conflict we instead get information we already know! Rings of Akhatten set up the fact that Clara was willing to give up a piece of her mother's memory to save the people of Akhatten; it also showed she was a kind, caring and compassionate person when she looked after Mery Gejelh and offered to help her. And from that point on we were given the same information that we had learned from this episode! Cold War: Compassion and Empathy. Hide: Determination and the same from last episode. Journey to the Center of the TARDIS: The experience Clara goes through is completely worthless as she practically learns nothing and doesn't develope! Crimson Horror: Clara doesn't really

tealeaves
tealeaves

Whilst I completely respect everyone who takes the time to write articles for DoctorWhoTV and do understand and agree with some criticisms of Clara's character I don't think Aidan Gula argued this in a convincing way. For example as Toby Hankin has already proved however much people dislike Clara she was far from 'useless' in Series 7 several times providing important solutions.

His criticisms of Time of the Doctor are also a little odd - I think we all (Clara included) know that a relationship with a man who is over 1000 years old wouldn't work and there is a difference between someone admitting in a truth field that they 'fancy' someone and actually honestly wanting a relationship with them. I'm sure everyone has, at one point or another, had a crush on someone who they had no intent on dating...or even telling! Whilst the 'boyfriend' scene is all a subterfuge to keep her stepmother happy!

The 'too much involvement in the storyline' is also an odd criticism seeing as both Rose (bad wolf) and Donna (the doctor Donna) were both highly involved in the story lines of their corresponding series.

The idea of the 'underused family' is hardly a fair criticism. Clara has only appeared in half a series of which two episodes included her family (Rings of Akhaten and Nightmare in Silver) these might not have been AMAZING episodes but again she has only had half a series and moffat has expressed his intention to focus more on home life in Series 8.

Other criticisms such as Clara's Theme or the 'romance' in Doctor Who have no real explanation WHY these things are bad except that the article writer doesn't like them. Meanwhile what I would say are more valid criticisms such as the fact Clara has not really been given the character development she deserves and is written differently by different writers, aren't even mentioned.

Polyphase
Polyphase

 Clara is fun, flirty and very energetic. That’s what we like in a companion

WE? No, No, Just No 

Some of you will disagree with this, but I think it was a good idea that Clara had a bit of a crush on the Doctor!

You summise correctly Sir, Well with the first bit :)

B910
B910

Although I have to agree with her family needing to play into the plot more, one very basic fact is being ignored. Almost all of the companions are FEMALE! Even in the classic series, most of them were girls. If there wasn't meant to be at least a spark of romance there (at the very least a crush on the Doctor), then there would have been far more guys. Although I have to agree I'd rather not see a full-blown romantic relationship, you can't expect there to not be something there when over 90% of his companions are girls and the Doctor is clearly not gay judging by his marital history.

Seaborn W Deadman
Seaborn W Deadman

I love Clara! I was a bit skeptical at first but all my doubts vanished when Day of the Doctor aired. I must disagree, in the second article, about her caring more about the turkey than anything else during Time of the Doctor...the turkey really faded out of the plot almost entirely very quickly, she only cared about staying with the Doctor and helping him.

jacksayspurple
jacksayspurple

I feel like I'd be able to take the 'Unpopular Opinion' half of this article a little more seriously if it was written as a serious debate. It literally sounds like a child's tantrum: 'I hate her because of this, and this, and this, and this, and this and I hope she never ever ever comes back again because I hate her.' 

Clara has had some big pitfalls as a character, that's true. I was personally hugely disappointed when she complied with the Doctor's demand to 'stay there' in Cold War. And honestly, I don't think Clara's storylines have been the best... knocking her out at the end of The Bells Of Saint John was a poor move since Clara wasn't able to prove herself as worthy of companionship to the Doctor, and therefore suggesting he only took her in order to solve the mystery, rather than because she was truly a special person, unlike the rest of the companions. I think that's mostly the problem people have had with Clara... 

Still, I don't understand how anyone could write her off as a companion just because of that. Jenna Coleman's acting is just wonderful, and she's been a lot of fun to watch on screen. I hope that we see a little more of her Oswin Oswald side in future, because, in my opinion that was where she performed her best. I think Clara is great and just needs a few great stories to convince the Whovians of her worth!






Captain Grumpy
Captain Grumpy

I do love Clara as she has the traits of a good companion who is:

1) Smart & Clever (Always good to have)

2) Normal ( A realistic character)

3) Can run ( Good trait when with the Doctor)

But there are some flaws that could be improved upon such as:

1) Flirting (Luckily none in the new series)

2) Useless ( in most episodes she dosen't do a great deal, e.g Journey To The Centre Of The TARDIS)

3) Another Girl ( I would love to see a companion who wasn't human, a girl, normal and from modern day Earth, i would prefer to see the Doctor with a different race of people from a different planet to Earth, don't get me wrong i still love the companions we've had in the last 9 years!)

I would love to see more episodes in which Clara is more a part of the main storyline ( Series 7 Part 2 didn't really deliver this!) as it would show her full potential as a companion and i think it would be useful to have an episode like this for every companion so then you can see why they make such a good companion.

This is my opinion.

ClaraOswald
ClaraOswald

I absolutely love Clara (well, duh, just look at my username) and she's my favourite companion of all time. And yes, I have watched a lot of the classics, so don't go all "well, you've probably only watched New Who" on me. Now, I will admit, I was a fan of Jenna BEFORE I saw anything of her in Doctor Who, so am I biased? Maybe.


What I love about Clara is her down-to-earth, normal, brilliant but flawed character. She's a skeptic, she doesn't just jump in the TARDIS and leave everything and everyone behind. She knows she has responsibilities, she knows that one day the adventure will end and she's doing her best to maintain a somewhat normal life on Earth. She's useful, intelligent, brave and loyal - everything I want in a companion. But she's far from perfect (a so-called Mary Sue). She's quite proud, she's a control freak, bossy, sometimes a little shallow, possibly even a bit jealous and quite naive in my opinion. Those flaws add depth to her character - more depth that I've seen in Amy, for example.


I'm having a hard time understanding why people DIDN'T like her "Impossible Girl" story arc in series 7 part 2. For me, it was the greatest arc we've had since the "knock four times" theme in series 4. The timing was perfect what with the 50th Anniversary and all. She's basically the Doctor's soul mate, she's the only reason he's got his TARDIS and is travelling around unharmed. She looks after him, but she never asks anything in return. She just cares that much about him and he loves her for it. I have a feeling a lot of Clara haters are Ten/Rose or Eleven/River shippers who think that the Doctor shouldn't love anyone else. That's just immature. He loved his companions before Rose/River and he will love his companions after Rose/River and yes, Clara. 


I think Clara has brought new life to the show. A new energy, new dynamic and lots of great moments. In some ways, she's the most important companion we've ever had and I'm so grateful to have her in series 8. I love Moffat for having created her and I love Jenna for portraying her perfectly.


Okay, my long opinion comment is done.

Amy is uniting the Earth Kingdom!
Amy is uniting the Earth Kingdom!

Seriously though, can somebody explain to me what it is people like about Oswin? As a big fan of the other two Claras, I just don't see it... she's got practically no substance; she's 100% cheek and flirt, probably comes the closest out of anybody to realizing the otherwise highly-exaggerated "Generic Moffat Female" stereotype, and she's even a fair bit rude and obnoxious... I mean, what is there to like about her?

Adric the Genius
Adric the Genius

The thing I dislike about Clara most is the fact that she is too similar to the other New Who companions: young, female, from the present and human.  We have had these primary companions for almost ten years now.  Perhaps it is time to introduce a primary, solitary male or alien companion instead?

MoffatMustGO!
MoffatMustGO!

The problem with Clara is that she is so badly written, just like all of Moffat's female characters. Jenna is a good actress (unlike Karen Gillan) but is wasted on such a one dimensional, stereotypical female character.  I'm sure the companions are chosen purely on looks these days. 


Maiden_Ty_One
Maiden_Ty_One

Oh, and Amy was a consistent companion from season two and half seasons, only Rory was intermittent, and neither of them were the 'main storyline' of any season.


Amy Pond is my favourite character of the entire revival, and I find it hilarious the way so many people hate her; she fits the bill of the 'companion' character of the classic series more than any of the revival so far.

Maiden_Ty_One
Maiden_Ty_One

@JakeGreen1 That's exactly why she and the storyline are so infuriating; the arrogance of Stevan Moffat to go back and rewrite the entire show's history, from 50 years ago, even pulling a George Lucas and inserting new footage into old episodes - other writer's episodes - from the last 50 years, in order to make the ENTIRE 50 year old show to be about HIS silly little storyline, and HIS current 'companion' character....I mean seriously, that's such arrogance it's unbelievable. 

He's essentially saying that anyone who considers themselves a Doctor Who fan can't dislike HIS run of the show; the entire show from the 1960's onwards is now about HIS storyline, so he 'owns' the entire show now, in other words. 


It's just arrogance, and shows no respect for either the show or its fans. 


And I'm not some Russel T Davies fan - I actually think RTD was even worse - and Moffat does score some points with me for giving us 7 mins of Paul McGann's excellent 8th Doctor on screen for the first time in 17 years - but I just really cannot stand arrogant writing.

Undiscovered Adventure
Undiscovered Adventure

Ironically enough, we see more of her personalty in Day and Time, even though she wasn't the focus. I guess that was owed to her being relived of her status as an enigma.

Undiscovered Adventure
Undiscovered Adventure

You make a very good point, though its a real shame that more of this sort of stuff wasn't in the series itself. Upon rewatching 7B it really hit me just how underused Clara is. They could have had way more character building scenes.

Beasts_a_Snarling is Discovering the 3rd Dimension
Beasts_a_Snarling is Discovering the 3rd Dimension

Ahem to continue:

contribute to the plot. Nightmare in Silver: We already knew she was a control freak. Name of the Doctor: The same from Akhaten.

I can go on and on about the many questions that need answering to prove how interesting a character is, but I should wrap this up.

Characters are meant to drive the story and lead it to somewhere new and interesting. Every episode should contribute to this and instead of waiting till next series, we should have had base development in Series 7, not 8. One can argue that Clara did get base development because she was the plot which clearly developed. I disagree. There is a difference between character plot and story plot. They should be kept separate because instead of Clara being developed the plot developed. It was Moffat was using Clara to create something new and interesting. He got it all wrong. By sacrificing character he had no one to lead the plot except the Doctor. We can see the effect. Many fans lost interest because they no longer cared about Clara and her plot because they had not developed her character enough.

Hosfac
Hosfac

@Polyphase I'm not sure what show you've been watching, but in the revival series, the only companion that DIDN'T, at some point, have a romantic interest in The Doctor was Donna and, quite frankly, she was the least interesting of all of his companions (in fact, her grandfather was more interesting).  The Doctor all but came out and professed his love for Rose, Martha left the TARDIS because she had feelings for him that he didn't reciprocate, and Amy made an attempt to seduce him on the eve of her wedding that was so overwhelmingly overt that there was no questioning what her intent was.  But you have a problem with Clara because she engages in some generally harmless flirting???



pyroclasticflow
pyroclasticflow

@Captain Grumpy Completely agree! I'd love an alien companion or a male companion. Hell, even a female companion from the US, Australia, or somewhere in Africa would be awesome to see - just some kind of variety, and even better if they're from a different time period than the current. I know it might make them less relatable to the general audience, but it would be really refreshing. I would also like to see more varied settings. How about an episode that takes place in Ireland or somewhere in Russia?







Undiscovered Adventure
Undiscovered Adventure

She was I great one off character, and personally I enjoyed her a lot, but no, she wouldn't work as a companion herself. I think one of the reasons she was so obnoxious was because she was a Dalek, if that makes any sense. Her over the top personality was part of the constructed world she'd built.

TheDreamer
TheDreamer

@Amy is Hannibal For me, it's mostly the impact of her turning out to be a Dalek and how they showed the process. It's not her per say that I liked, it's her story.  She didn't have much substance, but she worked well for a one off.

foxtrotalphaone
foxtrotalphaone

@Adric the Genius I have to admit, I was so hoping during the Christmas episode that the Doctor would have a Victorian era companion.  Then they killed her.  Oh well...

TheDreamer
TheDreamer

These days? Good one lol... When did they start having pretty female companions they put in tight clothes that barely covered half of them? Oh... Yeah... Since the 70s...

JimForbes
JimForbes

@Big_Bird96 Moffat does not write badly for females, I see this all the time from Moffat haters and it's just patently wrong.

Polyphase
Polyphase

@Hosfac  Rose no, Martha No, Amy NO, Clara Not again :(

Donna is by far my favorite companion of the new series just like the Doctor Who i've been watching :)

Captain Grumpy
Captain Grumpy

@pyroclasticflow @Captain Grumpy My point exactly! it would be nice to see more alien/ male companion and a new location in the world, i always thought it would be nice if a newer Doctor would visit the Aztecs again or some tribe, see how the comapanion nowadays would cope.

foxtrotalphaone
foxtrotalphaone

@Undiscovered Adventure Agreed.  But that episode always bothered me a bit.  I mean, if you look at where she was being held, for one thing.  It's this high security room inside of a high security area of the prison.  And she's chained up.  And since she was converted on the planet, it means the prisoners put her there.  It looks as though the Daleks regard her as the most dangerous thing on the planet.  I though the the story arc would turn out to be that the Daleks wanted the planet destroyed just to kill her.  Guess I was wrong, but I thought that that was going to lead somewhere at some point.

TheDreamer
TheDreamer

Yes, and I'm thinking that any situation that might trigger any sort of flashback and risk shattering her dream world would subconsciously be perceived as a threat and cause the sort of behaviours she exhibited. No different than the brain fighting against the resurfacing of repressed memories in a traumatised human - she was still human inside that Dalek armour... it was her psyche's self-defence mechanism. She rejected the Dalek conditioning and the only thing that kept her from losing the battle was that dream world of hers. It took everything she had, when the Doctor broke the bubble, to stop herself from exterminating him.

simon delafield
simon delafield

@TheDreamer Much further than that - just off the top of my head, Polly and her mini skirts in the sixties, Zoe and her *very* tight cat suit. Jo and her mini dresses which afforded countless upskirt moments in the early seventies. The fact is that by and large the female companions were selected as eye candy and this never really changed during the entire run of the original series until we got to Ace. And she didn't exactly look like the back end of a bus, did she!

foxtrotalphaone
foxtrotalphaone

@JimForbes @Big_Bird96 It's not so much that the character is badly written, but that all of Moffat's females, not just the companions, are derived from the same poorly conceived archetype.

simon delafield
simon delafield

@TheDreamer Oh and Jenna has to be the single most gorgeous actresse to grace the series since its revival (possibly since 1963) - and seems to be getting more lovely with every passing episode!

TheDreamer
TheDreamer

Yeah... Sorry... Quite right... Not always half of them. Sometimes barely a quarter lol. ;) But you know, that's how a "savage" is supposed to dress! :P

"Is that a leather bikini?!" haha... Loved that minisode btw. :D

TheDreamer
TheDreamer

Okay... Sorry yeah... Not always half of them, sometimes barely a quarter lol! ;) But you know, that's how a savage was supposed to dress! :P