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Why I Love the 11th Doctor’s Regeneration

Guest contributor Garrett Castello provides some thoughts.

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It won’t be long now before Peter Capaldi graces our screens as the Twelfth Doctor. So, in honor of that, I feel that it’s time for me to express my feelings on the scene (and episode, by extension) that officially introduced Capaldi as the Doctor.

The Time of the Doctor gained a polarizing reaction from the fandom from the very second the end credits rolled. It appears that fans either deem it as an abomination of an episode or as one of the best episodes of Matt Smith’s tenure. What’s my opinion? I enjoyed it. It’s certainly flawed and I can understand some of the grievances people have with it. My biggest problem with it is its pacing and how it tried to shove too much into a 60-minute special. If it had been 75 minutes like The Day of the Doctor or a two-parter like The End of Time, I feel there would have been enough room to properly organize all of the plot points and truly make it something great. But, in the end, I still really enjoyed it and it remains to be an episode that I like more and more each time I rewatch it.

What saves it for me is its terrific performances, satisfying answers (in my opinion, anyway) to the remaining plot threads of Smith’s era, its overall success at being a wonderful and heartfelt tribute to Smith’s era, and its final scene (which is the focus of this article). Say whatever you will about the rest of the special, but I will defend the regeneration scene until the day I die as one of the best regeneration scenes of the entire show, if not the best.

A lot of people seem to feel that the transition between Smith and Capaldi should have taken place at the clock tower. Personally, I’m extremely glad that this wasn’t the case. As I watched the special and saw the Eleventh Doctor gradually age, I was honestly a bit depressed by the fact that I would last see the Eleventh Doctor as a Hartnell-like, old man. So you can imagine that I felt a great wave of relief when I saw him regain his youthful body at the very end before the final transition. I’ve noticed that a lot of people were confused by this but, to me at least, it makes complete sense; and, heck, it’s even explained by the Doctor in that very scene. The Doctor’s body was reacting to gaining a new regeneration cycle and thus a reset occurred. His body was taking a slower time than expected to adjust to the new set of regenerations so the healing aspect of regeneration took place before the transition (this will come up again later).

smith-regen-speech-timeNow let’s talk about the farewell speech. It’s perfect. Absolutely perfect. The Eleventh Doctor’s final words to Clara (and the audience, by extension) were the best final words of any Doctor in the history of the show thus far. They not only show the Eleventh Doctor’s acceptance of his oncoming change and his satisfaction of his time as that incarnation but they’re also a wonderful speech about change in both the show and real life.

“We all change, when you think about it. We’re all different people all through our lives. And that’s okay, that’s good, you’ve got to keep moving, so long as you remember all the people that you used to be. I will not forget one line of this. Not one day. I swear. I will always remember when the Doctor was me.”

Change happens but, as long as you remember how things used to be, everything will be okay. And I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one who got a pretty meta vibe from this. Matt Smith was literally telling his fans that everything’s going to be okay. He won’t be the Doctor anymore but, as long as they remember when he was the Doctor and give Peter Capaldi a chance, everything will be just fine. Now, Matt Smith wasn’t my Doctor. I became a fan of Doctor Who back in the summer of 2012 and the very first episode I watched was Blink (once again proving that episode to be the perfect Whovian converter). And while David Tennant remains to be my favorite Doctor, Matt Smith comes in a close second as I not only really enjoyed him as the Doctor but he holds a special place in my heart as he was the current Doctor when I became a Whovian. At that time, there were just eleven Doctors and Matt Smith was the end of the line. There was no one after Smith; but now there is: Peter Capaldi. This was the first regeneration I saw in sync with the rest of the fandom and I’ll admit that a few tears were shed when I had to say goodbye to the man who had been at the helm when I became a fan.

amy-time-regen-smithThe cameo appearance by Karen Gillan as Amy Pond also received polarized reactions. Many people felt that it was a disservice to Clara and that it shoved her, the girl who had helped save the Doctor’s life, to the side. I, however, didn’t see it like that. I saw it as a beautiful moment with the Eleventh Doctor remembering his most cherished companion. Yes, he and Clara were best friends and Clara knows more about him than any previous companion to date. Clara is really important to the Doctor. But Amy was most important to the Eleventh Doctor. She was his mother-in-law, his family, the first face he saw as the Eleventh Doctor. It makes perfect sense that he would remember her in his final moments as that particular incarnation. In those few seconds, he was taken back to a time where it was just him and the Girl Who Waited. No Rory. No River. No Clara. Just the Eleventh Doctor and Amy Pond. His hallucination of Amy and his discarding of the iconic bow tie acted as representations of his satisfaction of his life as the Eleventh Doctor and his readiness to move on. Also, the choice to use Murray Gold’s “Infinite Potential” from The Rings of Akhaten during this scene was a fantastic choice. It’s a wonderful piece of music that helped show the infinite potential (see what I did there?) of the Doctor’s future from here on out.

capaldi-regen-timeNow let’s talk about what’s gone on to be the most controversial aspect of this regeneration scene: the snap (or sneeze) transition. I’ll admit that it caught me a bit off guard when I first saw it but I soon found it to be very fitting after thinking about it further. Firstly, I think it was a welcome breath of fresh air after the montage of “hold on exploding hands and face” effect we’ve gotten throughout New Who. Not to mention that we saw three of those in 2013 alone with the Eighth Doctor’s regeneration, the War Doctor’s regeneration, and the beginning of the Eleventh Doctor’s regeneration on the clock tower. So I personally found it to be a welcome change from the expected regeneration effect. And, hey, you’ve got to give credit where credit is due: nobody saw it coming.

Secondly, it actually makes a lot of sense. Earlier, I said how the healing aspect of the regeneration had already taken place in response to the new regeneration cycle (which caused the Eleventh Doctor to become young again). So you can imagine that not a whole lot of energy was needed to make the final transition. Thirdly, if you look back throughout the history of the show, the regenerations became longer and more violent as the Doctor reached the end of his cycle. Now that the Doctor is at the beginning of a new cycle, it seems fitting that the regeneration would take less time. The big regeneration explosion on the clock tower before that was, as I explained earlier, simply the Doctor’s body reacting to obtaining a new regeneration cycle.

If there’s anything I didn’t like about this regeneration scene, it’s how little time we got with Capaldi before the credits rolled. But that’s mostly just a nitpick as I loved his first few seconds and lines as the Doctor. I’m definitely looking forward to what his Doctor has in store for us in Series 8!

So, in conclusion, everything about the Eleventh Doctor’s regeneration just clicked perfectly into place for me. The performances, the music, the transition, Amy’s cameo, the final speech, and Capaldi’s official debut. It all combined into one beautiful farewell for the Eleventh Doctor. If the rest of The Time of the Doctor had been as good as this scene, it would have easily become one of my favorite episodes. In the end, it may not have been a perfect episode as a whole but (in my opinion) it sure ended on quite a perfect note.

Step back in time...

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Scootersfood
Scootersfood

I'll always love Time of the Doctor. I thought it was the perfect exit for 11, bringing back his most iconic foes and putting closure to several unanswered questions. I don't agree with people who complain about Amy being there, I think it was perfect. It never said Amy was more important than Clara, it was just the person the Eleventh Doctor traveled with and trusted the most. It's nearly impossible for me not to cry when she walks on. I loved what people are calling the "sneeze" regeneration, I think it's pretty unique. Would we really need a slow one, he already had one on the clocktower. Time of the Doctor is not necessarily my favorite Regeneration episode (Although it sure is one of them!) but it's by far my favorite regeneration scene. 

EthanLenoff
EthanLenoff

All feelings about the quality of the episode and regeneration aside, why would the Doctor set his TARDIS to fly away if he knew he was about to regenerate? At best, he ends up without an explosion but still has to deal with a TARDIS in space as the new regeneration, and at worst, he ends up like he was in The Eleventh Hour totally out of control.


brianmaybug
brianmaybug

I realy loved the abrupt transition from smith to capaldi, i think it was designed to be shocking and indicate to the audience that things are going to be a bit different from now on. Capaldi is coming to get us.. roll on 23/08/2014!

12th's Sonic (I'm Listening!)
12th's Sonic (I'm Listening!)

Wait a minute!!! We are on the 12th doctor, right? Correct me if I'm wrong. ( I am not counting meta-10 and war) and there are 12 episodes in series 8. Made to be like that or just a massive (Sorry, can't spell it, help?) Is it or is it not?

The8thDoctor
The8thDoctor


The abrupt regeneration was a refreshing change to the long and drawn out Russell T Davies ego trip for the 10th Doctor.

Steven Moffat put 1000 years  of a battle for Trenzalore and a regeneration into 60 minutes that were vastly superior to the 2 hours of self indulgence aka "The End of Time".

Flying Zombie Cannibal  Master....no thanks.

Ollie Walton Harrod
Ollie Walton Harrod

I actually can't be bothered to read the article right now, but I don't like it because firstly, he ignores Clara a bit, when he hallucinates Amy. And secondly, and more importantly, he says 'I'll always remember when the Doctor was me', which is just fan service. The Tenth Doctor does this also with 'I don't want to go', but I don't really mind it as much as it's a shorter statement, whereas the Eleventh Doctor's is said in more of a poetic way. Which sounds like a good thing, when I say poetic, but it comes across for me as a deliberate attempt, for quoting. And Matt Smith looks at the camera. That is the one thing I hate. The regenerating bit on the tower I really liked.


Luna23
Luna23

Nice to see an article take another look at "Time of the Doctor", which gets alot of hate, not unlike the Eleventh Doctor himself.  Which is one of the many reasons that I love Matt's finale.  In "Time of the Doctor", the most un-welcome of Doctors, whose actor was so thoroughly trashed when he was announced in the role,  gives reassurance at his end that all will be alright even though his incarnation's time is up.  It is ironic that Peter Capaldi, who has been so universally welcomed in the role, should receive this blessing from the actor who was so deeply hated.  It was a wonderful touch, and was so like both the Eleventh Doctor and Matt Smith himself.  He went out with grace, dignity and heroism, and the dropping of the bow-tie was a marvelous and sublime acceptance of the change coming.  My only regret about Matt Smith's finale is that it was not long enough.  I think it needed , and deserved, the time a 2-parter would have given  it.  But, short as it was, it was a fitting end for a great.......and my favorite......Doctor. 

Amy says Peter Davison is the Thirteenth Doctor!
Amy says Peter Davison is the Thirteenth Doctor!

Since we also seem to be voicing our opinions on the Tenth Doctor's regeneration, here goes: I thought that his made perfect sense for his incarnation. The Tenth Doctor was probably the most humany incarnation of them all. After he lost Rose, he slowly shielded himself from the pain of it by displaying more of his Time Lord persona. "The End of Time" is meant to break that facade down completely, similarly to how "The Time of the Doctor" strips away Eleven's youthful exterior and reveals the tired old man underneath. Plus, he was occasionally quite vain. So going out of his way to get a "reward" (I initially didn't like the idea that he went back and looked up *all* of his companions as established in "Death of the Doctor", but knowing now that it would have been his last regeneration, it actually makes quite a bit of sense as opposed to him just being overly dramatic, and the case with Jo Grant made it clear that he could only look some of them up, not visit them in person), and lamenting to himself about not wanting to go (though in his defense - Ten only lived for three to six years, so when he says he could do "so much more," he's not entirely wrong - as, being a humany incarnation, he would have an exaggerated sense of self in relation to the collective of "the Doctor"). Now, did I like Ten's regeneration? Eh... it doesn't really resonate with me personally, since Ten is one of my least-favorite incarnations. But it did make narrative sense, and that's something that I do like about it. In fact, I can't really think of a regeneration that's happened thus far that didn't make sense for that character (well, maybe Six's, but he had a notoriously massive ego so a random blow to the head being what kills him has the same touch of dramatic irony as the Seventh Doctor's regeneration). The episode itself was okay. I don't think that's it's one of the worst things to ever come out of the show like some do, but I don't love it. I love parts of it, like Wilfred and the Master and Rassilon, but other parts are pretty blargh (the Vinvocci, the Naismiths, some of the comedy fails to connect with me). And some of the farewells at the end could have been way better (Sarah Jane's in particular).

Oodkind listens...
Oodkind listens...

I liked a lot of it, but I have a few problems.

First, the clock tower regeneration. The laser arm thing was stupid, in my opinion. It was a stupid way of destroying the Daleks, and made no sense. Yes, regeneration energy could harm things, but taking down a massive dalek ship thousands of feet in the air? And then all the debris coming down on the town the Doctor spent a thousand years protecting (though the society didn't advance at all)? I didn't like that. 

I liked the speech a lot, and I think that whole scene you mentioned was great. However, I think Amy's scene was badly done. Her attitude was a bit off, stroking his face and all that. It didn't seem like Amy, and I think it could have been done better. The concept was good, but the execution was lacking.

The speech was brilliant, but then we got to The Sneeze. I think it could have been a brilliant idea to have him gone in a flash like that, but it didn't work. Part of my problem was leaning over like he did. If he had stood up and changed in a short burst, it would have been good. Instead, he leaned over like a very powerful sneeze, and came up as Capaldi. It looked like a low-budget fan film with awkward camera cuts instead of a BBC hit show. Again, the idea was good, but the execution wasn't. 

I think overall, the regeneration scene was very powerful, but the way it was done lacked a lot. If you sit and think about it, it's easy to justify it all in your head and pretend it was a lot better than it was, but when you actually watch it, it's a bit disappointing.

EdWhovian
EdWhovian

I hated the eleventh doctor's vain regeneration. I much prefer 13's regeneration into 14, or do we call him 2.1 now?

CyberSmith
CyberSmith

The End Of Time was a TRILLION times better!

CameronCairns1981
CameronCairns1981

Smith was the 12th doctor and capaldi is the 13th the last regeneration of the doctor at the moment

Master Michael Moon
Master Michael Moon

What a great article, and you know what, I completely agree with everything. I do love The Time of the Doctor, more so than The Day of the Doctor. It's just personal preference. I thought the entire episode from start to finish held a steady pace and I felt ready to say goodbye to the Eleventh Doctor (yes Moffat, I used numbers- bite me). The regeneration at first annoyed me because it felt fragmented (the clock tower energy, then the snap change in the TARDIS) but then I remembered- it was a new regeneration cycle, things are bound to be different with this process. I also get goosebumps when I read or watch 11's final lines, they ring so true in real life. The only thing I don't like about the hallucination of Amy is the the fact that the TARDIS is littered with them stupid children's drawings. Completely unnecessary, even in the previous scene beneath the clock tower. And lastly, I felt we had just enough of Capaldi's Doctor (there, is that better Moffat?) which was very tantalising and that cliffhanger where he seems to have lost his memory is fantastic...

RossNelson
RossNelson

Whilst I like the post above, the episode fell short in a big way. I have been a fan since tail-end of Tom Baker and I have loved the new series but have not been enjoying the latest of the Mofatt era until Day of the Doctor which quite frankly blew me away. This episode however had me bored, looking for other things and above all worried as it felt like it was rushed, no great ideas, too many enemies coming into the episode. Even down to the regen, I actually think it was worse than Baker to McCoy. Smith should have regenerated at the end of the 50th with some plot twist to really set up the next Series rather than something of a pastiche that I now have to spend money on to complete my collection.

YaelMoise
YaelMoise

Some people in the comments have taken issue with this regeneration because he doesn't sound like a dying man would. 

He's not dying. 


Which is why I liked 9th Doctor's speech much better than 10th, and why 11th's speech works too. 9th and 11th know the truth of the Doctor - that he goes on. That it's not some stranger walking off when he's "gone". That he's not dying. I think 11th's speech goes a long way towards reasserting that, after 10th's dreadful send off. 

I don't like TotD. My list of criticism about it could fill a page or two. But the regeneration got it right. Yes... even "the sneeze". 11th's regeneration was the longest one I've ever seen, people! It started up on the tower, and it was so slow he had time to make a speech! How can you call that a sneeze? A blink-and-you'll-miss-it? So you wanted them to draw it out even more? There's no reason to. It was already long enough, if not too long.

VictorWong1
VictorWong1

1. The "healing" part did have a precedent in "End of Time Part II," when Ten lost the scabs and injuries he'd picked up from his fall. It was a sign that the regeneration process had already started and was progressing.


2. Actually I didn't mind the abrupt, non-morphing transition. FX-wise, it was pretty cheap (Smith falls out, Capaldi jumps up, some flashes in post-production), and the abruptness helps shock the viewer.


3. I do think the cameo of Karen Gillan / Amy Pond could have been done better; in fact I question the need to do it at all. It was JNT, back in the Classic Era, who used the regeneration scene as a way to say farewell to past companions for the T Baker and Davison Doctors; Moffat kept the spirit of it verbally for Night of the Doctor but I think The Angels Take Manhattan and Snowmen were already effective in bringing closure to the Pond era.

YourSpacialHatness
YourSpacialHatness

I PERSONALLY (key word) don't think this was as good as Tennant's, I mean his send off felt so much more epic and dramatic  - but then he was my favorite Doctor so I may be a little biased :)

G_Unitt
G_Unitt

Does anyone else wish that Matt had been wearing the Tweed jacket during his last speech on the TARDIS? I never really became attached to the 2nd outfit he wore.

G_Unitt
G_Unitt

I re-watched Time of the Doctor last night, and for some reason it just clicked for me. I absolutely hated it the first time I saw it, I was really annoyed that he hadn't had a good send off. But again, for some reason this time it clicked and it really worked for me. I loved it. It kept everything tied together from his era, it really ties into Day of the Doctor (The Man Who Forgets - "Is that you Barnable?"), Matt Smith was amazing, and whilst I was hoping for a new regeneration track that was a more intense I Am The Doctor, I sort of forgot about it this time round. I don't think it was needed because it wasn't the same sort of regeneration as Tennant. The cameo with Amy was a great touch I think, as I always think of the Eleventh Doctor and Amy, as a team. I even liked that he stayed around for a few hundred years, as I'd recently rewatched The Power of Three where he couldn't stay still for 5 minutes. I think that shows how important it was. 

Also, the beginning was really funny, and set up the most devastating death since New Who began ... Handles, we will miss you. Well done mate. My 2nd favourite regeneration in the whole show, just after Androzani, and just above Planet of the Spiders.



Chronos the Fannibal
Chronos the Fannibal

I don't know whether to hold my breath in anticipation or hyperventilate while watching this scene

MeglosProductions
MeglosProductions

I absolutely hate, hate, HATE it when people refer to Matt's regeneration as the "sneeze regeneration" or mark the regeneration down because of the quick change

1. A regeneration does NOT need fancy special effects to be good

2. He ALREADY let out all the energy on the clock tower, so OF COURSE he's going to change quick

3. I suppose you have a problem with regenerations 1-4?

4. Can you honestly imaging Matt's face morphing into Capaldi's? NO

5. The quick change was fittingly shocking and gave Capaldi's first appearance more impact

6. The point is Matt's final speech was much more effective and true to the character of the doctor than Tennant's pathetic, character butchering "I don't want to go" line.


So there. That is why Matt's regeneration is  BY FAR the superior regeneration to the GOD AWFUL 10-11 one.

danyael
danyael

@EthanLenoff Why does the doctor do any of the crazy ass things he does? Answer, he's the doctor that's why. Lol







brianmaybug
brianmaybug

True that.. Park the tardis if you know you're about to regenerate, the doctor is lacking in common sense sometimes..

microbat98
microbat98

No, not at all. By saying that he means theta he remembers each Doctor, including this one. He's being sentimental; saying that he will remember this incarnation and that change is important and good. Not fan service at all. Ten's was much more vain, saying that he, that Doctor, didn't want to go. Screw the others, Ten is the most important. That's what he's saying. Eleven is saying "Don't worry Clara, I will remember me. This change is good. I'm alright"

Amy says Peter Davison is the Thirteenth Doctor!
Amy says Peter Davison is the Thirteenth Doctor!

"though the society didn't advance at all" -Considering that they were a human colony on an alien world, it would seem that human society had already advanced by that point. I just assume that the humans on Trenzalore were like a Luddite or an Amish colony who came there to farm. They didn't want to advance, although it would have been hard to anyway since they were right in the center of a massive war for a lot of it.


microbat98
microbat98

Matt's 13 and Capaldi's 14. Well done.

Ollie Walton Harrod
Ollie Walton Harrod

@EdWhovian  Don't try and be specific, and change around the Doctor's numbers. It doesn't matter what it technically is, just call it by its known name, for convenience, please.

And it's not vain. Goodness me. That was said once as a sweeping statement for comedic purposes, and now so many fans are taking that seriously. It's not vain, it's fine. If you happened to like one version of yourself and decided to keep that, that's not vain, it's just a preference, that you'd like to prolong.

 Notsosmartguy
Notsosmartguy

@CyberSmith I hate when people just say ______ was better and then leave without giving any context. It's juvenile, rude, and frankly kinda asinine.

NineTenElevenTwelve
NineTenElevenTwelve

@CameronCairns1981 No. Smith is still the 11th Doctor. John Hurt's Doctor didn't go by the title of "the Doctor". He's simply the War Doctor. Yes, Smith is the 12th incarnation of the Time Lord known as the Doctor but he is not the 12th Doctor, Capaldi is. And while Capaldi did come from the Doctor's 13th regeneration, that's not his last. The Doctor already used up all 12 of his regenerations when he regenerated into Smith. The Doctor now has a whole new set of regenerations, which was given to him in "The Time of the Doctor" by the Time Lords via the crack in the universe. The Smith-Capaldi regeneration used the first regeneration of the set so the Doctor now has 11 more regenerations. The regeneration list is as such: 1 (Hartnell to Troughton), 2 (Troughton to Pertwee), 3 (Pertwee to T. Baker), 4 (T. Baker - Davison), 5 (Davison - C. Baker), 6 (C. Baker - McCoy), 7 (McCoy - McGann), 8 (McGann - Hurt), 9 (Hurt - Eccleston), 10 (Eccleston - Tennant), 11 (Tennant - Tennant), 12 (Tennant - Smith), 13 (Smith - Capaldi).

ConnorWhite
ConnorWhite

@YaelMoise 10 knew about the war doctor and the metacrisis doctor so he knew that this would be his final regeneration so you can understand why he doesn't want to go. Both 9 and 11 now knew they had at least two or more regenerations left so you can see why they might not be as sad as someone who (to his knowledge) was using up his last regeneration  :p But I agree with you on everything else :p 

Scootersfood
Scootersfood

@G_Unitt I do think it would be cool, but I honestly think his 2nd outfit was much better than his first one.

NineTenElevenTwelve
NineTenElevenTwelve

@G_Unitt I personally liked Smith's 2nd outfit more than his first. In fact, I think Smith's Doctor was at his best during the "Clara Era" of his tenure vs. the "Pond Era" of his tenure. He was fantastic throughout all of it, don't get me wrong, but I just liked the more mature, darker 11th Doctor of Series 7B onward the best.

Ollie Walton Harrod
Ollie Walton Harrod

@MeglosProductions I agree with parts of that, however..

3. The first 4 regenerations weren't quick regenerations.

4. I don't think whether we can imagine it is a reason; it could have been done.

6. And this is where I really start to disagree. The Eleventh Doctor's "I will always remember when the Doctor was me", I don't like, because firstly, it is just fan service. The Tenth Doctor's "I don't want to go" is equally for the fans, but I prefer it to the Eleventh Doctor's because the Tenth's is just a short statement, wehereas the Eleventh's is said in a more poetic way. Poetic sounds like a good thing, but for me, it just comes across as a deliberate attempt of a quoteable line. More importantly, he looks at the camera wile saying it, which does ruin the entire thing for me. That's breaking a wall, and makes Doctor Who seem like it's just being made for fans to go 'woo'. Also, when he hallucinates Amy, he ignores Clara a bit. I didn't feel that was necessary.

Lastly, by adding 'BY FAR' and GOD AWFUL', you just lose the respect of anyone who likes that regneration. And that's not just something to go 'Well I don't need their respect' about. I'm just saying, if you unnecessarily add an extreme opinion like that, anyone who disagrees with that statement isn't going to listen to you at all. - Just a tip.








OncomingStorm in a Brownoat with a stake
OncomingStorm in a Brownoat with a stake

@MeglosProductions  "and true to the character of the doctor than Tennant's pathetic, character butchering "I don't want to go" line." When 10 was regenerating he thought he was regenerating into his final incarnation. He thought it was his last regeneration, it makes sense that he wouldn't want to change because it signifies that he's dying - and dying for good. As far as he was concerned, after changing into 11, that would be it.



MetamorphmagusWho met 7, 8 and Ace
MetamorphmagusWho met 7, 8 and Ace

@MeglosProductions  I sometimes call it the sneeze regeneration but I still love it. I say it in more of a 'jokey' way and in fact like you I wasn't bothered by the fact that it was quick because, as you mentioned, the initial energy had already been released. The regeneration wasn't quick, the transition from Smith to Capaldi was, but to me it makes perfect sense.

Ollie Walton Harrod
Ollie Walton Harrod

@microbat98 no he doesn't mean that. He is saying that he will always remember that incarnation, not every single one, otherwise there would be no point in the statement.

Ten is not saying he is the most important at all. He is saying he doesn't want to go. As in he quite likes that incarnation of him. That is completely understandable that if you like a version of yourself, you wouldn't want to swap that for something else. That's not about being vain; he's not saying "God, I'm gorgeous. I don't wanna turn into an ugly person".

I know it is justified by the fact that he is talking to and reassuring Clara, but it was said in a way that, and the fact that he looked at the camera really just do prove that it was for the fans.

Ollie Walton Harrod
Ollie Walton Harrod

@The8thDoctor @Ollie Walton Harrod self obsession? well that's taking it a bit too far. I'm just saying I couldn't be bothered to read it at that moment, but I did still feel the need to comment on the topic.

The reason I said I couldn't be bothered to read it right now is only to clarify that if I did say something contradictory to the article, then I'm sorry, I haven't read it.

I'm not commenting on anything about the article other than the overall topic, so it makes no difference whether or not I've read it. 




Amy says Peter Davison is the Thirteenth Doctor!
Amy says Peter Davison is the Thirteenth Doctor!

Nah. Admittedly, I do tend to enjoy the more humany Doctors less, because I'm not all that big on Five either. However, the vanity is certainly no issue; Six was incredibly egotistical and he's one of my favorites. Ten just isn't very interesting to me. He's bland, right down to the costume. He comes off as "just a bloke" to me, with nothing eccentric about him, and personally, I believe that the Doctor needs eccentricity. Ten's quirky, I suppose, but he's so "modern day guy" that he seems unremarkable. It's nothing against David, though. The problem wasn't in his acting. I just don't think that he was a very compellingly-written character. Plenty of others disagree, of course, and that's fine.


YaelMoise
YaelMoise

@ConnorWhite @YaelMoise But... 10th made a whole fuss about how he actually WAS dying, THIS time. About how someone else walks off, and he's dead. So, I really can't see how it was about his knowledge of 11th being the last bothering him, rather than his seeing himself as dying rather than regenerating. 




YaelMoise
YaelMoise

@TheOncomingStorm @MeglosProductions Then why make it about someone else walking off while he's gone? If that wasn't in there, I'd agree with you completely. It would rehabilitate 10th's horrendous regeneration for me in a big way... but it was in there, so I'm with Meglos here, I'm afraid. 

TheNightmareChild is LISTENing!
TheNightmareChild is LISTENing!

@Amy is Hannibal That's cool.  I'm not trying to start a debate or anything, I was honestly just curious. :)  Generally speaking, if someone tells you that they're not fond of a particular thing on this site they're also ready to tell you why.  Of course, you might have done so before and, like me, you don't like to repeat yourself.  Either way, while I tend to disagree I can certainly see where you're coming from.

OncomingStorm in a Brownoat with a stake
OncomingStorm in a Brownoat with a stake

@YaelMoise @TheOncomingStorm @MeglosProductions 10 was vain, it's practically a fact. But that was a part of his personality, we all know the Doctor regenerates with a different personality. For one Doctor regeneration may feel like change and for another it may feel like dying. While he's the same physical being, with the same memories, he is, in a way, a different person. Different look, and, most importantly, different personality entirely. I wouldn't like that, even if I retained my memories. And maybe 10 kicked up a fuss about it because, well, he liked himself as he was. I don't know. If you don't like, nothing I say will change that, but that's the way I see it.

Amy says Peter Davison is the Thirteenth Doctor!
Amy says Peter Davison is the Thirteenth Doctor!

Dalek and Doomsday and The Sound of Drums and The End of Time and The Doctor's Wife disagree with your assertion. "Let's Kill Hitler" does not suggest that the Doctor does not remember his time as the War Doctor. I think I know which quote you're referring to, but let's look at that for a second. He says, "So, basically better regenerate, that's what you're saying." To which the interface responds, "Regeneration disabled. You will be dead in thirty two minutes." He isn't saying that he can regenerate. He is presuming that the interface is going to tell him to regenerate. How do we know that, had the interface not shot down his assumption, that he wouldn't have said, "Yeah, well, I'm all out of regenerations, so what should I do about that?" or something to that effect? We don't. Moreover, he was in a panic at that time. How often do people think straight when they're in a crisis and are about to die?