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Peter De Jersey Hopeful for Gallifrey Return

Androgar-day-of-the-doctorPeter de Jersey has said that he is hopeful fans will get to see Gallifrey and the Time Lords in the show again.

The actor previously portrayed the Time Lord Androgar in The Day of the Doctor.

He told Flicks and the City: “It was too exciting and a great honour [to be involved in the 50th]. I was thrilled with the way it all worked out and working opposite Ken Bones [The General] was great.”

He adds: “Now that myself and Ken Bones are on Gallifrey and frozen in time I hope very much that someone might unfreeze us one day so we can join forces again.”

On Peter Capaldi he said: “I’m immensely looking forward to Peter. It’s a great idea to go with someone of Peter’s stature and age. He is timeless and a fantastic actor. After the great work that Matt Smith did, you need to shake it up a bit.”

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MrThorfan64
MrThorfan64

Maybe Gallifrey will appear but rarely, with the Time Lords acting like spirit advisers to the Doctor. If the Master does return they might warn the Doctor.

Ivegotnewkidneys on the 23rd
Ivegotnewkidneys on the 23rd

I just really hope the Gallifrey arc isn't handled like the way Bruno Heller handled the Red John arc in the Mentalist as that was just tedious 

TheDaleksDaughter
TheDaleksDaughter

I love Peter de Jersey. I was so happy when I saw him in the 50th! I hope we see him again in DW. He could even become President of Gallifrey, maybe...

Planet of the Deaf
Planet of the Deaf

I imagine his fellow Timelord actor must be jealous of his name, I mean Peter de Jersey is a much cooler name than Ken Bones...

Handles
Handles

I can't be the only one who hopes that Gallifrey isn't even found in Capaldi's era, surely? I wouldn't mind Capaldi coming close to finding it, but I don't want his incarnation to be the one who finds it and transports it back to where it belongs. Alternatively, he could find it, but have no idea how to get it back... But I haven't developed that idea any further!



The Finn
The Finn

He can come back... some day.

Antee991166
Antee991166

If Gallifrey returned at the end of Capaldi's first series, I would definitely be underwhelmed. I think a couple of years would be the best length, with maybe some clues being revealed every series.

SteviePenny
SteviePenny

I actually think the longer they leave it, the better it is until Gallifrey returns.

gunslinger19
gunslinger19

i actually hope that they keep the Gallifrey thing locked away for as long as possible. 50 years if the shows still around! the doctor has been running from Gallifrey all of his life. 50 years seems logical as he spent 50 years running away. also, when it does come back, it should be a mainly negative thing. i know that history wasnt actually changed, but saving Gallifrey was an act of the Time Lord Victorious and should have very serious implications for the universe. the doctor should even regret the decision.

 Notsosmartguy  the dalek of Jersey
Notsosmartguy the dalek of Jersey

I'd like them to keep the time Lord return subplot going for at least 5 years I feel this isn't something that should payoff right away.

The_Eternal_Dalek
The_Eternal_Dalek

Don't hold your breath, the intention was this storyline would have enough momentum to keep the show going for another fifty years, don't expect it to be resolved in the next couple of years.

supermoff
supermoff

Sounds cool :) They should include a scene where Androgar and the General take out and usurp Rassilon (hopefully Timothy Dalton can reprise that role too).

VictorWong1
VictorWong1

@Handles You aren't. The last line in Day of the Doctor sums up the situation: "Home -- THE LONG WAY ROUND."

Remember that Gallifrey is part of the Doctor's backstory, and TV writers are taught never to dwell overmuch on the character's backstory.

RTD invented the Time War to remove the temptation of doing a Gallifrey story, and only did The End of Time because the other producers wanted to give viewers a "paradise lost" glimpse of Gallifrey in its last days.

SM, in Day, fixed the one flaw of the Time War element (even in his darkest moments, the Doctor doesn't have the personality that could, even reluctantly, countenance committing double genocide) but parked the planet outside the continuum rather than let it recover in real time. Essentially, same effect as the Time War, except for the glimmer of hope that "one day ... I shall come back ..."

SM, and his successors, are not overeager to repeat the mistake of JNT's tenure, which was to dwell too much on Gallifrey and the Doctor's past history. That means Gallifrey goes to the back burner, and on the back burner it will stay.

What does that mean for Series 8? Apart from the Daleks (and we must accept that a new Doctor must always have a confrontation with his oldest foe), I want to see all new monsters and villains, no returns of foes from the past (i.e. no Angels, Cybers, hostile Silurtarans), and no mention whatsoever of Gallifrey and the Time Lords. Twelve has enough problems as it is, what with a Swiss-cheese memory and a skittish companion.

TheDreamer
TheDreamer

@Handles That would work too. Doesn't matter to me who finds it, but I really don't think it should be found easily, or too soon. 

TheDreamer
TheDreamer

@Antee991166 Yeah, at least a couple of years. I think it should be a long "search" (didn't Moffat say it wouldn't be the focus somewhere?) with a cliffhanger at the end. 

MarkThomasLangdon
MarkThomasLangdon

I think people took Moffat too literally when he made that comment about ensuring the show will go on for another 50 years. I don't think he was referring to the search for Gallifrey plotline, I think he was already thinking ahead to how what happened in The Day Of The Doctor would lead to the Timelords giving the Doctor a new regeneration cycle. That is what will ensure that the show will go on for 50 more years at least. We just didn't yet know that that was going to happen when he made that remark. Also, more generally, the Day Of The Doctor was a major shake up for the ongoing pilotlines, and doing those kinds of major shake ups is the sort of thing that keeps the show moving forward.

TardisBoy
TardisBoy

I think what Moffat meant is that Gallifrey's return would allow for a plethora of stories to be utilised for the next 50 years.


The Administrator
The Administrator

@The_Eternal_Dalek Really? I got the impression that this was meant to propel the remainder of Moffat's tenure and that the return of Gallifrey would be his parting gift to the show he loves. 

supermoff
supermoff

@The_Eternal_Dalek It mostly likely will, though we can never be certain. Gallifrey will probably be back before Moffat leaves the show. 

Wibbly-Wobbly is John Reese
Wibbly-Wobbly is John Reese

@supermoff That would be amazing! I've had a little thing sitting in my head for the end of Series 8. Instead of a traditional cliffhanger like Series 1-4/7, the Series ends on a happy note, the Doctor returns to the TARDIS and it fades. 

Then we see a flashback to the beginning of Gallifrey. Rassilon played by Dalton and the Other played by McCoy(!!!) discussing things when suddenly Omega enters and states his name... played by Peter Capaldi. It can tie in to the "Why does Twelve have a familiar face" thing. 


Of course that whole theory is completely delusional. Maybe I should write some fanfiction.

supermoff
supermoff

I think Moffat said it wouldn't be the focus of every episode. Can't be sure though.

The_Eternal_Dalek
The_Eternal_Dalek

@supermoff @The_Eternal_Dalek  That's definitely not the impression I was getting, I get the feeling he'll leave it hanging for whoever his replacement is to carry on. You don't make that sort of long term storyline then just finish it off as soon as physically possible.

supermoff
supermoff

No, the line "no sir all thirteen" was spoken by Androgar, not Twelve

The Outer Space K9
The Outer Space K9

But if you do wait imagine how great and momentuous it would feel when The Doctor finaly discovers Gallifrey.

Rani Nose
Rani Nose

@supermoff @The_Eternal_Dalek Finding Gallifrey is a higher concept than a simple storyline.  It will be the frame upon which several years worth of storylines can be hung.

Antee991166
Antee991166

@supermoff  RTD had used the Time War for all its worth, reaching a climax with the End of Time. I was glad that Moffat moved away from it, since it seemed there was nothing else that could be done with it. It was definitely a good idea to finish the Time War, since it had run its course.

supermoff
supermoff

But it wasn't a story arc. This is. And frankly the time war did get boring after a while

The_Eternal_Dalek
The_Eternal_Dalek

@supermoff @The_Eternal_Dalek  Then what is the long term story? There's something that was happening in the 50th that would create a long term story is this seems to be it.


You'll only bore the audience if you keep going on about it, if it really is long term, you only need to throw in the occasional comment once in a while, not bring it up every episode.

supermoff
supermoff

@The_Eternal_Dalek @supermoff Yes, but we don't know if it'll be a long-term storyline, and it certainly isn't something you can massively drag out without boring the audience too much. I'd say maybe in Series 9 or 10, but any longer would not be a good idea.