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New Who: The Story Thus Far – Series 2 (Episodes 5-13)

John Hussey continues his series analysing the revival with Series 2.

‘Rise of the Cybermen/The Age of Steel’

Rise of the Cybermen/The Age of Steel‘Rise of the Cybermen/The Age of Steel’ continued the Tenth Doctor’s (David Tennant) journey with the return of an old classic, i.e. the Cybermen. This would become the standard tradition of the New series of having at least one monster/villain from the Classic series revamped for a whole new generation. Though with Russell T Davies’ Cybermen its debatable on whether or not you consider them actual Cybermen. I’m going to refer to them as Cybus-men for the sake of my own personal belief. It was an interesting return plan for the cybernetic killers with the idea of resurrecting them through the means of a parallel universe. This in itself established new territories for the show that had rarely been used. ‘Inferno’ was the only true example prior to ‘Rise of the Cybermen/The Age of Steel’ of using the concepts of parallel universes.

For this two-parter we had insane businessman John Lumic (the late Roger Lloyd-Pack) attempting to cheat death by creating the Cybus-men: cybernetic suits of steel that would hold the human brain without the apparent weaknesses of emotions. This dark scheme resulted in many unwilling subjects to be converted into this dreadful state of evolution. In many ways Lumic’s character reminded me of Davros (creator of the Daleks) due to his wiliness to survive and rise above weaknesses and strive for the superior being. In the end he upgraded himself and became Cyber-Controller before finally succumbing to death along with the rest of his active creations.

The parallel world idea also brought into consideration that family members could still be alive even though they are dead within our own reality. Pete Tyler (Shaun Dingwall), Rose’s (Billie Piper) dad, was still alive along with Mickey Smith’s (Noel Clarke) grandmother (Mona Hammond). The difference was that Jackie Tyler (Camille Coduri) was selfish and uncaring, even to the point of putting off having children due to her worrying about her figure in the eye of the public which meant Rose was never born in that world. Mickey also had a double called Ricky Smith who led a gang called the Preachers with Jake Simmonds (Andrew Hayden-Smith) and Mrs. Moore (Helen Griffin), who attempted to take down John Lumic and his company Cyber-Industries.

The Torchwood Institute received another brief mention after Pete spoke about it over his eye-piece indicating that the organisation also existed in the parallel world as well as our own. The idea of the parallel world would became a bigger part of the story-line within the Series Two finale ‘Army of Ghosts/Doomsday’. I believe the idea of using the Cybus-men was inventive but honestly it wasn’t fully necessary and it would’ve been nicer to have just had the original Cybermen from the start. After the death of Ricky, Mickey grew more confident and established his final major development as a character and at last became the hero and no longer the bumbling sidekick. In the end he decided to remain on the parallel Earth to continue the fight against the remaining Cybus-men.

‘The Idiot’s Lantern’

idiots-lantern-wireMark Gatiss returned with the story ‘The Idiot’s Lantern’ (sadly for the last time during Davies’ tenure). It was a very simple basis for a story, but inventive all the same. The idea of something living within the television and stealing your face and identity was just chilling. What better time to use this idea than at the point where everyone was crowded around a television during Queen Elizabeth IIs coronation? The Wire (Maureen Lipman) proved to be a formidable foe that sparked off the anger within the Tenth Doctor after it stole Rose’s face as well as many other innocent people to serve its selfish ambition of regaining its physical form after its own kind destroyed it. ‘The Idiot’s Lantern’ also served to showcase history in a darker manner with the implication of bullying towards their family in the form of Eddie Connolly (Jamie Foreman). I’m just glad his wife Rita Connolly (Debra Gillett) worked up the courage to throw him out after his continuous vicious nature throughout the story. I think it was ironic that the Wire was defeated by the invention of the video-tape, and for extra guarantee, would be taped over.

‘The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit’

toby-zedThe-Impossible-Planet-The-Satan-PitThe Tenth Doctor and Rose were stranded for the first time in their adventures together during the events of ‘The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit’. It was an interesting idea to actually have the Time Lord and his companion temporarily without a TARDIS, leaving them lost within a strange world millions of miles away from safety. The planet Krop Tor defied the laws of physics by orbiting a black hole while a mad group of human explorers tried drilling to its heart to discover what its secrets were. This adventure also brought about the introduction of the Ood, a slave race for the human empire within the 42nd century. Their origins would later be explained in ‘Planet of the Ood’ but for now their presence was left vague. They were simply slaves without a say due to the unknown reasoning of them cowering away and dying if not given orders. It was sad what became of the Ood after they were possessed and unfortunately left to die after the Tenth Doctor couldn’t return to save them from the pull of the black hole.

The biggest implication this story brought was the mythology behind Hell and its demonic ruler Lucifer. Satan was referred to as the Beast (voiced by Gabriel Woolf) within this narrative and thought to have existed before the universe. The Beast was imprisoned within the core of Krop Tor and if it tried to escape its bonds the planet would fall within the black hole. The creature attempted to leave the planet by infiltrating and taking over the mind of Toby Zed (Will Thorp), with its mind escaping while leaving behind its body. This of course wasn’t the first time creatures and aliens posing as Gods and Demons appeared within the show, but was the first time it had come close to actually using the real thing (which was left up to imagination in the end as the Tenth Doctor doesn’t fully believe in its existence). The creature was finally destroyed when the Tenth Doctor took down the shields protecting Krop Tor from the black hole. The Beast’s body fell with the planet while Rose sent its mind in Toby’s body flying out of the rocket’s cockpit windows. ‘The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit’ gave another reference to the Torchwood Institute and also gave a prediction towards Rose’s fate in ‘Army of Ghosts/Doomsday’ through the Beast’s prophecy.

‘Love & Monsters’

Love & Monsters‘Love & Monsters’ was without a doubt a disappointment and a travesty. I remember when myself and my mum first watched this episode on its original broadcast, we got to the end and thought “was that it?” The concept was just brilliant. The idea of having ordinary people becoming fascinated with the Doctor and trying to seek him out only to be met with dark consequences whilst re-establishing how dangerous the Doctor’s life is to those not just around him. The problem was the execution as it was just a joke of an episode. The characters were a joke, the casting was awful and it just seemed to be a parody of what Doctor Who should be. It wasn’t taken seriously at all in my eyes. Also Peter Kay was terribly misused, which was a total shame of his abilities and fun nature. ‘Love & Monsters’ had the making to be something brilliant but instead Russell T Davies sadly delivered us with a lazy script followed by lazy casting and directing. Luckily Doctor-Lite episodes were treated more seriously in the following series with ‘Blink’.

‘Fear Her’

fear-her-dadThe Tenth Doctor decided to take Rose to the 2012 Olympic Games but was met with a deadly danger within an ordinary street. ‘Fear Her’ seemed to be another filler episode like ‘Love & Monsters,’ only it was good. The story was straightforward and served its purpose of being a nice, calm and entertaining story. It had a dangerous enemy who was no more than a child who craved friends after becoming separating from her many brothers and sisters in space. The Isolus almost caused the end of the Earth by kidnapping all of humanity into her own personal playpen inside of her drawings. It also gave Rose some well-earned attention by having her save the day after the Tenth Doctor was kidnapped by the Isolus (something she rarely got to do throughout her time with the Time Lord). The episode brought in dark themes of family bullying (like with ‘The Idiot’s Lantern’) with Chloe’s (Abisola Agbaje) dad implied to be a drunken thug who would beat his wife and daughter after having a drink before his death. His portrait from the Isolus’ drawings, created through Chloe’s nightmares of him, was shown to be exactly that. This was the first time it was implied the Doctor was a father within the show as a direct reference from himself. The only other reference that implicated this was his granddaughter Susan Foreman (Carole Ann Ford). At the end of ‘Fear Her’ we were given even more implications towards Rose’s fate within ‘Army of Ghosts/Doomsday’ with the Tenth Doctor mentioning a storms approaching.

‘Army of Ghosts/Doomsday’

doomsday-dalek-vs-cybermenSeries Two came to an explosive and heartbreaking end with ‘Army of Ghosts/Doomsday’. We finally met in the flesh the Torchwood Institute which was created by Queen Victoria back in ‘Tooth and Claw’ and mentioned as references throughout the episodes of Series Two. Torchwood One was established at Canary Wharf where it was lead by Yvonne Hartman (Tracy Ann Oberman). The Tenth Doctor and Rose returned to find the Earth infested with ghosts which appeared during shifts. The Doctor quickly deduced that the ghosts weren’t what they appeared to be, i.e. the souls of the dearly departed returning home to their love ones. The Torchwood Institute was the eye of the storm and upon the Tenth Doctor’s arrival he was taken prisoner due to being enemy number one as decreed by Queen Victoria.

For the first time Jackie was made a companion instead of a sidelined character (similar to the evolution Mickey received in ‘School Reunion’) and travelled in the TARDIS (accidentally against her will) with the Doctor on his adventure. Jackie for a tiny portion of the narrative served as replacement for Rose in order to keep her safe from Torchwood but eventually her cover was blown. One of the other interesting parts about the story was the inclusion of Freema Agyeman who would later go on to play Martha Jones in Series Three. In ‘Army of Ghosts/Doomsday’ she played Martha’s cousin Adeola who tragically was killed.

The ghosts were in fact caused by a crack within the Void brought about after the Void Ship crashed through reality. The beings crossed through the breach within the Void and crossed into our universe from there’s. It was eventually discovered that the ghosts were in fact Cybus-men from the parallel universe and wished to take over our world. The contents of the Void Ship turned out to be four elite Daleks created by the Dalek Emperor to think like the enemy and discover new ways of killing and surviving. They were called the Cult of Skaro forming of Dalek Sec, Caan, Jast and Thay. This was the first time within the show that the two great enemies came crashing together in a war to the death. Though it was a brilliant idea on paper I fear it wasn’t executed to the best of its abilities. The Cybus-men didn’t stand a chance for starters, thereby making the war unfair in favour of the Daleks supremacy. Also there wasn’t much action between them. It was a little disappointing in my eyes and could’ve been a lot, lot better. In some ways it probably would’ve been better and fairer if the Cybus-men had the finale to themselves instead of bringing the Daleks in for the sake of it.

Mickey, Pete Tyler and Jake Simmonds made a return in order to help the Doctor prevent the collapse of both universes and stop his two enemies achieve the victory. The Cult of Skaro unveiled their secret weapon, the Genesis Ark, which turned out to be secret Time Lord technology, i.e. a prison that was bigger on the inside housing millions of Daleks. The Tenth Doctor defeated his two enemies by using the Void against them, reversing the breach to suck all contents of ‘Void stuff’ which everyone who had crossed or entered the Void carried. This brought about the tragic end to Rose who was forced to live in the parallel universe. Jackie was sent there to be with Pete (which was a beautiful ending that they both deserved) but Rose refused to take the Doctor’s word of leaving. Unfortunately as much as she tried to stay with the Doctor it was not meant to be. The Tenth Doctor managed to send one last message to her through a projection but was unable to tell her his true feelings towards her after Rose finally declared in the open her love for him. The projection cut shut and left them both devastated. Unfortunately for the Doctor his adventures are ongoing and never stop. Before he could have time to grieve over Rose’s departure he was landed with a mysterious bride (Catherine Tate) which left him utterly confused.

My Verdict

  • ‘Rise of the Cybermen/The Age of Steel’ – 9/10
  • ‘The Idiot’s Lantern’ – 9/10
  • ‘The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit’ – 10/10
  • ‘Love & Monsters’ – 3/10
  • ‘Fear Her’ – 8/10
  • ‘Army of Ghosts/Doomsday’ – 8/10

Join us again next month for the next two instalments, this time looking at Series 3.

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MeglosProductions
MeglosProductions

Love And Monsters is a brilliant episode! It showed the impact that the doctor has on other's lives perfectly.

The 11th Doctor
The 11th Doctor

My Verdict on Series 2, Episodes 5-13:

Rise of the Cyberman/The Age of Steel: 9/10 (90%)

The Idiot's Lantern: 8/10 (80%)

The Impossible Planet/ The Satan Pit: 8/10 (80%)

Love & Monsters: 2/10 (20%)

Fear Her: 5/10 (50%)

Army of Ghosts/Doomsday: 9/10 (90%)

Average Rating: 6.8/10 (68%)

Ollie Walton Harrod
Ollie Walton Harrod

Wow. Every episode is getting a 7 or above, and 'Love and Monsters' gets a 3. It wasn't that bad. It took an alternative look at the lives of those affected by The Doctor, and the emotion it brings, that you wouldn't normally see in an episode. It was very interesting, and original.

TheOncomingStorm
TheOncomingStorm

ROTC/AOS - 8/10 Idiot's Lantern - 8/10 TIP/TSP - 9/10 Love And Monsters 8/10 (yes, 8, deal with it) Fear Her - 4/10 AOG/D - 10/10 I don't get why people don't like series 2, it's my favourite of NuWho (yes, favourite, deal with it.)


TheDreamer
TheDreamer

The worse one for me... 

  • ‘Rise of the Cybermen/The Age of Steel’ – 5/10
  • ‘The Idiot’s Lantern’ – 2/10
  • ‘The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit’ – 9/10
  • ‘Love & Monsters’ – 2/10
  • ‘Fear Her’ – 5/10
  • ‘Army of Ghosts/Doomsday’ – 6/10


Maryanne123
Maryanne123

The worst run of Nuwho by several country miles. The only half decent episode is the impossible planet. The others are dire beyond belief. Awful,plots, awful pace, awful acting by the leads. This is where I finally realised that try as I might I could not take to Tennant's gurning or Piper's pouting. Self indulgent, infantile and sloppy. Until the End of Whine the absolute low point in both old and new Who history. -10/10.

The Mind Probe
The Mind Probe

I'm really surprised to see you call Fear Her a "good" episode! I find it very boring, cliched and far too cheesy... ("Bob? Oh no, not you too Bob!") 



Love & Monsters, on the other hand, I find is an episode that gets better and better each time I watch it. Yes, the design of the monster is terrible, but I believe the episode would be considered a lot better by most if the Abzorbaloff had simply been wearing Victor Kennedy's suit still. The real heart of the story was seeing the effect that the Doctor has on the lives of the people who get left behind, which I find very moving. The romantic story of Elton and Ursula is also very touching, as is the story of friendship, and the script is bursting full of great one-liners in between the more touching moments. (Elton: "She keeps everything very close to her chest". [Looking at photo of Jackie] Ursula: "That's a hell of a chest!")




Baker Street is excited for Series 8!
Baker Street is excited for Series 8!

I love all of these episodes apart from Fear Her. I think they were all very well-constructed, original stories (even Fear Her to some extent), and they made Series 2 a very enjoyable series. McRae's two parter is like an action/horror movie and is a great reintroduction for the Cybermen (I love their attack on the mansion); Gatiss' filler is brilliantly acted, fast-paced, fun and quite creepy; The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit is the scariest episode ever and one of the most well written and directed ever; Love and Monsters is just a brilliantly fun and unique episode in my opinion, and Marc Warren gives one hell of a performance (I love him in Mad Dogs too), although I will admit that the Absorbaloff and the paving slab girl are atrocious; Fear Her is appalling, and too overly-sentimental and boring in my opinion; Army of Ghosts/Doomsday brings the Torchwood arc to a satisfying close and makes great use of the parallel world characters, and the Daleks vs Cybermen plot is epic.

Rise of the Cybermen/The Age of Steel - 9/10

The Idiot's Lantern - 8/10

The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit - 10/10

Love and Monsters - 8/10

Fear Her - 5/10

Army of Ghosts - 9/10

GWad84
GWad84

Rise of the Cybermen/Age of Steel- 8/10. Highs and lows for this story. The parallel universe is handled brilliantly i.e Pete living, Rose never being born, Mickeys gran and the Ricky joke being followed up from the first series. Mrs Moore's character was fantastic, brilliantly acted along with some great lines. "Your father had a bike" really making me chortle and of course meeting a tragic end. However Noel Clarke didn't rise of the challenge of his dual part and his performance was below par. Along with that I've never been totally convinced by the Cybermens redesign. I've always found it far too clunky and Mrs Moore's demise is slightly spoiled by the fact we somehow miss the mechanical stomping of the cyberman that sneaks up on her. However this can be forgiven with the portrayal of the megalomaniac Lumic by Roger Lloyd-Pack. Pack really hams up the psychotic antagonist and rivals Alan Rickmams panto villian performance of the Sherrif of Nottingham and this story left me wanting more trigger in Doctor Who. Tennant is brilliant as per usual.

The idiot Lantern- 8/10. Mark Gattis is always the right man for period episodes and this story proves no different, not as strong as The Unquiet Dead but maybe we can put that down to the fact that particular episode was reinforced by the fantastic performance of Simon Callow. This episode looks and sounds like the 1950's and Gattis' script and the fantastic production transports you there. Good villian, good threat & the sub plot of the bully husband and father really gave the story depth.

The impossible planet/The Satan Pit. 9/10I love base under siege stories when it comes to who and always think they're amongst the strongest. Every character in this two parter is well explored and the supporting cast really pull their weight. The Doctor questions his own beliefs here while trying to hold the rest of the crew together, Tennant again is brilliant and when I think of stories like this it really is a toss of a coin between him and Smith as the best doctor

on new who.

Love & Monsters. 7/10 I think this story gets a raw deal. I think Elton's story is really touching by the time it's played out. You see in this story how The Doctor is wonderful but dangerous to innocents at the same time. Yeah it's a bit silly in bits but there is some good gags in there two. The raxacolricalphlapratorieis, Klum joke being a good example.

Fear Her 1/10. Terrible episode no redeeming qualities. Worst in the nine years the show has been back. If I was a Dalek I know what I would do to this episode! Twice!

Army of Ghosts/Doomsday 9/10. Doomsday as a standalone episode would recieve a 10 from me but as a story is dragged down by the first episode which is a little silly in parts. The sphere, the genesis ark the void and the conclusion to the parallel universe story which was set up in the first two parter are real highlights in this story. However what makes it fore is Tennants performance. This was the story which really cemented him as an all time great Doctor. He really covers the range of emotions brilliantly, especially in the second episode and his reponse to the Daleks order to open the genesis ark has always been of my all time favourite Doctor Who moments: Daleks " The Doctor will open the genesis ark!"

The Doctor- Chortles "The Doctor will not!" The story culminates with The Doctor and Rose being torn apart not before Rose chooses to be with the doctor over her newly reunited (sort of) family. Doomsday really was RTD at his best and I don't think any of his stories returned to these heights until The Waters of Mars!

Galax
Galax

Interesting. I totally disagree. Fear Her = Doomsday... just no. Fear Her is by far the worst episode of DW ever. And Love and Monsters is a brilliant and original episode, while McRae's two parter is okay, and Gatiss' episode dull in the second part.

Rise / Steel - 6/10

Idiot - 5/10

Impossible / Satan 9/10

Love & Monsters - 7.5/10

Fear Her - 3/10

Army / Doomsday - 8.5/10

Maf67
Maf67

What's the matter with you people, love and monsters was supposed to be a comedic episode.

gunslinger19
gunslinger19

ROC/AOS- 7/10

IL- 7/10

IP/SP- 10/10, loved these epiodes!!!

LAM- 4/10, underrated. with the exceptiin of the abzorbaloff this was actually ok. not sure y u think the casting was wrong and Jackie got some wonderful development.

FH-pretty much nothing good in this whatsoever imo, not sure why you would give it an 8/10.

AOG/D-9/10, could have been done better but the daleks I think were just brilliant, particularly when they first appear that scene still gives me goosebumps :D

WhoPotterVian
WhoPotterVian

Love and Monsters still remains the worst Doctor Who episode in the show's history. Absolutely terrible. Poor acting, rubbish  dialogue, silly monster... Everything about it is bad.

TheBiPunishment
TheBiPunishment

Series 2: 


1. The Satan Pit 10/10

2. The Impossible Planet 10/10

3. Tooth and Claw 10/10

4. School Reunion 9.5/10

5. Doomsday 9/10

6. The Christmas Invasion 9/10

7. The Age of Steel 8.5/10

8. The Girl in the Fireplace 8.5/10

9. Army of Ghosts 8.5/10

10. Rise of the Cybermen 8/10


11. The Idiot’s Lantern 8/10

12. New Earth 7/10

13. Love and Monsters 4.5/10

14. Fear Her 4.5/10



















Anthony Retondo
Anthony Retondo

This was a great analysis! But it made me realize that I only really like TIP/SP and AOG/D XD I just cannot get passed how bad and uninteresting I find some of the Who extras to be at times, and RTD's era was full of them.  I never cared about Jackie or Rose's father or Mickey or Mickey's grandfather. It just got in the way of the Doctor for me. XD 

DawnTime
DawnTime

The Impossible/Planet and the Satan Pit are possibly my favourite story from new who. So Atmospheric. Wonderful voice of G Woolf. Who to me has the best evil voice of all time (sorry Pyramids of Mars is forever etched in my memory from a child).  Its like this is 10 ++ while the rest of this series was trailing in its wake.

Adric the Genius
Adric the Genius

The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit was the best episode of Series 2 in my opinion.  The theological and religious references were great, as were the cast and the setting.  The Ood were fantastic.  For once, I felt that the series had finally left Earth, which is not the centre of the Universe.  Only New Earth had the TARDIS leave its orbit, and even then that planet was basically a redesigned Earth.  Also, I think that Love and Monsters is better than Fear Her.

Tennant_Capaldi
Tennant_Capaldi

My rankings

1st Rise of the Cybermen/Age of Steel - Great villain and monster , love the parallel universe aspect. 9/10

2nd Idiots Lantern- Great story , monster was clever and loved the time period and the whole scared of the Telly thing. 9/10

3rd Impossible Planet /The Satan Pit - Love the setting , the ood were scary and the cast were good. 8.5/10

4th Army of Ghosts /Doomsday -Beautiful swan song for Rose , epic finale , felt rushed though in Doomsday . 8/10

5th Love and Monsters - Abysmal monster ( amazing actor - Peter Kay) , Awful story , Cheesey characters and Hate the bit with the Hoix. 2/10

6th Fear Her-Bad script , bad monster , bad idea and hate the whole theme episode of Olympics and all the characters were annoying( especially Kel) 0.5/10

NOTE : Love and Monsters , Fear Her , Hide , Rings of Akaten , A Town Called Mercy , The Doctor , The Widow and The Wardrobe , Curse of the Black Spot , The Rebel Flesh / Almost People , New Earth and Daleks in Manhattan / Evolution of the Daleks are the worst episodes of Doctor Who in my opinion.

Matthew Graham and Neil Cross are my least favourite writers

Nosliw Rennoc
Nosliw Rennoc

Changes to make:

Love and Monsters 7/10

Fear Her 2/10

Jeavons
Jeavons

Good series of articles absolutely ruined by an 8/10 for Fear Her. Fear Her is as bad as Love and Monsters. Chloe Webber is as bad as Abzorbaloff.


In fact I would be more likely to watch Love and Monsters again because Marc Warren is awesome, and if I watch Fear Her it leads me to suppressing the urge to punch all child actors in the face.

Doctor Capaldi
Doctor Capaldi

Very Good article. I'm enjoying the series and I agree with most of your judgements, though if it was me, I wouldn't even give Love and Monsters a 1. Easily the worst EVER story.

stargazer0118
stargazer0118

AoG/Doomsday is way better than Fear Her, IMO, there is no comparison. To each their own.

Mad-Mad With A Box Productions
Mad-Mad With A Box Productions

Not a big fan of this series to be honest. The only real highlights for me are The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit and The Girl In The Fireplace. The finale and the Cybermen two-parter are both decent, however.

Judge Claude Frollo
Judge Claude Frollo

Here's mine,

RoC/AoS-8.5/10. A good two parter which saved Mickey's character.

TIL-It's not as good as The Unquiet Dead, but it still manages to pull some things off. 7.5/10

TIP/TSP-10/10. What a great episode!

LaM-Um...er...2/10. I refuse to believe this episode was written by RTD. I refuse to believe this is a Doctor Who episode at all.

FH-Better, but nothing special. 5.5/10.

AoG/Doomsday-9.5/10. A wonderful conclusion for Series 2.

Overall, I give this series a 8/10. It was good, but it could have been better.

Nightmarish
Nightmarish

Series 2 is my least favorite series of all time. It's really just not what I like. Especially not this half of it, where I only like certain parts of The Satan Pit and Age of Steel.

Americanwhovian
Americanwhovian

love and monsters didnt work  well as an episode it would have worked good as a series of minisodes

Notsosmartguy approves of female thor
Notsosmartguy approves of female thor

I loved all the 2 parters this series :-) especially the impossible planet/ Satan pit. But it suffers from a lot of rtd era missteps. honestly all my problems with this series and pretty much the whole rtd ears boils down to one factor Rose Tyler. She has her moments and I love Billie piper but the charecter herself is kinda self centered. And even when she isn't there her shadow is over the show but that's a discussion for next time.

TheCapaldiMasterplan
TheCapaldiMasterplan

Not a good bunch here for me (bar one):

Rise of the Cybermen / The Age of Steel: 3/10

The Idiot's Lantern: 6/10

The Impossible Planet / The Satan Pit: 9/10

Love and Monsters: 0/10

Fear Her: 2/10

Army of Ghosts / Doomsday: 3/10



shyx111
shyx111

Probably I would have enjoyed The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit more without all the: "Rose, oh my Rose" "Doctor, oh my Doctor" part... and Army of Ghost/Doomsday is the only Series finale I quite like in RTD era.

I don't like the rest...

Polyphase
Polyphase

I agree that The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit is the best of these stories.
Actaully I would agree with all of your scores, Great article :)

Deus_Ex_Machina
Deus_Ex_Machina

I completely agree with what you said about Love and Monsters. It was a really good idea for a story and had a lot of potential, but it didn't quite come together. People argue that it was good to see RTD shaking things up a bit and experimenting with the format of the show, but the fact of the matter is that it was still a terrible episode. I actually didn't mind it the first time I saw it (not saying it was great, but it was okay), but every time I've rewatched it since then, it's just gotten worse and worse in my eyes.




Fear Her wasn't to great either. I can't quite put my finger on what I didn't like about it, but it just didn't work. It's one of the lowest ranked episodes in my mind, just above Love and Monsters, Victory of the Daleks and Let's Kill Hitler. From what I understand though, it was a very last minute script written by RTD to replace the famous unused Stephen Fry script, so I guess there's that to take into consideration. I sincerely hope the Stephen Fry episode is made one day, or if not, that he'd write another one. Even to see Fry acting in an episode would be cool (I could see him playing the Doctor's brother Irving Braxiatel personally). Maybe one day, Big Finish will do the script for their Lost Stories range.







I love Army of Ghosts/Doomsday. It's possibly my favourite series finale to date. The first encounter between the Daleks and the Cybermen when they're dissing one another is one of the funniest moments in the history of the show. I think this story deserves more credit than it gets.











Kiki Kiki
Kiki Kiki

Army of Ghosts/Doomsday deserves more love. 

Sir James Bond
Sir James Bond

This comment may prove to be as popular as fart in a spacesuit, but what the heck,..... I actually quite like 'Love and Monsters' and 'Fear Her'. Yep, I do. Quite a bit in fact, so ya boo, sucks to you. 

I can forgive 'Fear Her' its narrative and thematic shortcomings because of its status as a last minute replacement for an abandoned Stephen Fry yarn. There's some nice interplay between the leads, and I think the idea capturing people in drawings is suitably creepy and 'Doctor Who' in nature. And I've always loved the idea of the all powerful Doctor just shuffling down a normal suburban street. It makes him feel 'accessible' in a way few other alien, sci-fi, characters are.

Meanwhile, 'Love and Monsters' is a prime example of a show-runner's desire to really play with the flexibility of the format, and I applaud RTD for doing so. The subject matter was worthy of investigation, the episode's overt humour was neatly offset by its rather quaint examination of loneliness, and I admire the fact the villain of the piece was designed by a young viewer. A fan. I think that's ruddy marvelous. I can't think of another major TV show, of any genre, that would allow that level of creative input from a member of the public. It proved that 'Doctor Who' is a franchise that embraces its fandom, and through this episode, actively celebrates them. I know I'm not going to change any minds with this comment, and I don't care, because that's not its intention. I just wanted to remind people that there are other fans who simply adore this story. Who celebrate its invention, its heart, its quirkiness and, yes, its bravery. 

And we always will. 




Galax
Galax

Well, The Rings of Akhaten is a pure sci-fi-fantasy based on an alien planet episode, isn't it ?

The Doctor's Wife, Asylum of the Daleks, Nightmare in Silver...

Sir James Bond
Sir James Bond

@TheRoastNewtSo 'Tooth and Claw' was your intro to the show eh? Blimey, you got the perfect compact 'Who' story on your first go. 

I think that Episode encapsulates all that's great about the programme in 45 perfectly formed - alien werewolf, celebrity cameo, base under siege scenario, corridor running, nicely resolved, mildly anti-establishment - minutes.

Nightmarish
Nightmarish

I do not like 'Love and Monsters' at all, but only because of the execution. I have to say though, 'Fear Her' is dreadfully underrated. It's not a great episode, but it's decent, better than New Earth in my opinion.

Mary Sue's Vertue
Mary Sue's Vertue

@Saturdayness  Well said, i'm quite fond of ''Love and Monsters'' too. I know it get's a hard time from a portion of fans, but i think it' was a brave and bold decision to do a ''Doctor-lite'' episode in only the second year of the shows reboot, and for all it's silliness, it was quite a dark story

Sir James Bond
Sir James Bond

@magnus greel @SaturdaynessI've always loved it. It wears its individuality on its sleeve, and it's quite prepared to be 'different'. Its well paced, soundly structured, and above all 'inventive'. And that's what I want from this show, invention, variety, tonal shifts. This programme, as we're constantly reminded, can go anywhere and be anything, and this episode revels in that level of creative self determination. 



Ollie Walton Harrod
Ollie Walton Harrod

@MeglosProductions @Ollie Walton Harrod yeah, I feel a lot of episodes I like better on re-watching. 'Love and Monsters' and 'Fear Her' for example. Other people just like to retain their hateful opinions, and don't like anything different to the average, good episode.



stargazer0118
stargazer0118

@Saturdayness @TheRoastNewt  Well New Earth was a perfect opener for me. Love it so much! :D Same with The Christmas Invasion. Those 2 eps got me really excited for the rest of the series. 

Sir James Bond
Sir James Bond

@TheRoastNewt @SaturdaynessIndeedy doody, in fact, I'm sure 'Toothy Claws' was supposed to the season opener (which would've been a heck of a curtain raiser). But still, I can see why they went for a bit of jovial, space-age, frivolity instead.


Oh, for the days when we were all less fussy and picky. I wouldn't be sitting here having to defend 'Love and Monsters'. :)

Sir James Bond
Sir James Bond

@TheRoastNewt @Saturdayness'I really couldn't have asked for a better start to the series.' 

I know, just think, one week earlier and things could have been so very different. Nah only kiddin', 'New Earth's alright I suppose, its just desperately in need of that one extra week's worth of filming time they lost.