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Moffat: Series 8 Not A Fairytale, There Are Consequences

Series-8-TV-launch-trailer-(4)Steven Moffat has said that the “fairytale” era of Doctor Who is over and promised that the Series 8 stories will have bigger consequences.

Speaking to SFX he said: “I think it feels more serious. One of the watchwords we have this year is there are consequences for choosing to live like this. It’s not a fairytale. If you have people back home, if you run away it’s going to have an effect on them. And it’s not necessarily always going to be lovely. And does the Doctor make you better? We want to make it feel that these adventures can hurt…”

On Capaldi’s Doctor: “He’s not as immediately approachable and he’s not necessarily looking for your approval. I would like to restore the sense that when he says ‘Wait here, I’ll be back’ you really hope he’ll be back, but you’re not absolutely convinced… What he’s not doing is reassuring you very much.”

On Clara’s relationship with Capaldi’s Doctor: “From a Doctor she could sort of control, because he had a crush on her, she’s landed with a Doctor who barely registers that she’s a girl. They’re great friends and all that but she has to be his human interface with everybody else.”

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MarlonJBonnici
MarlonJBonnici

It should never have really been a "Fairytale" Anyway so some much needed seriousness is highly appreciated here. It's only taken Moffat what? Three seasons?

Notsosmartguy's got no strings on him
Notsosmartguy's got no strings on him

I never understood why people have problems about the "fairytale style". l think the fantasy aspect suited the show particularly Matt Smith's era well.Not to say I'm hating the new direction (believe me I'm one of it's biggest defenders) but I wish it was appreciated more. If I wanted to watch a gritty realistic sci fi show I'd watch whatever other crap is on tv.

Diana van der Pluijm
Diana van der Pluijm

I am very happy to hear this. Actions and decisions should have consequences.

MoffatMustGO!
MoffatMustGO!

Been disappointed with the Moffat era lately (most of series 7 part 2 was good) but series 8 sounds promising. If we have no River Song then it should be a good series.

steverogersandfriends
steverogersandfriends

Series 8 sounds amazing. I'm getting more and more excited every day. I have a feeling this series will have more of a classic who vibe. :)


VortexDan
VortexDan

Real consequences? Or Moffat "consequences" where nobody dies and nothing bad happens? And man, isn't it terrible when women don't fall in love with men. This is really an obstacle Clara must overcome

Skylord Maldon
Skylord Maldon

I'm really looking forward to this, a nice direction for Series 8, though I have this little feeling that some people are not going to like it :/ just a feeling hopefully I am wrong :D

TheTimeExplorer
TheTimeExplorer

This will be VERY good.... New Who with a dash of what made Classic Who great, that's what I took out of this article. Can't wait to see Capaldi in action, August 23rd can't get here fast enough!

DawnTime
DawnTime

Hmmm sorry peeps not liking the sound of this, hoping The Moff is leading us on a bit, as sounds a bit like the Pertwee era, which is not one of my favourites (My husband should be happy however) !

dragonsfyre
dragonsfyre

Dear Amy, it's not that adults can't enjoy silly/light-hearted material.  We can, my dear, and do.


But for Doctor Who to reclaim its ability to make you hide behind the sofa, it MUST ratchet-up the fear factor. You can still have whimsy and magic but serious scares need to be part of it. Indeed, when horror is woven into a story that starts with whimsy and wonderment, the results can be electrifying.

Liana21
Liana21

I never believe in fairytales.

I'm looking forward how Clara lives the transition between Eleven and Twelve, because, maybe taking out Peri's between Five and Six, the most of Companions who have lived a regeneration, have passed from one older to one younger and easier.

Polly and Ben past from the grumpy One to the funny Two

Sarah Jane past from the flamboyant Three to the bohemian and crazy Four

Adric, and in less terms Nyssa and Tegan, because they had less time with him, from the more mature Four of season 18 to the naive Five.

And Rose passing through from the PTSed soldier that was Nine, to the all charming Ten.

So, Clara is the first Companion practically since the 80s who's going to change from an easy Doctor, a cute energetic puppy as Matt was sometimes, to one more serious, dark and I'm still thinking, not so chatty.

Polyphase
Polyphase

Excellent, A blast from the past maybe. Clara may have to be a bit more like Tegan :)

Mercy Reborn2
Mercy Reborn2

I think since Clara is a control freak that not being able to control the doctor would make adventuring a bit more scary for her

Mercy Reborn2
Mercy Reborn2

maybe one of Claras family members dies ,and she wasnt there because she was off having adventures. I think grief would make Clara a bit more realistic, and it is  more interesting when there are consequences. I guess since she has a friend with a time machine, she can go back in time to see them again, but I dont think it would be the same

TheNightmareChild just got fitted for a loincloth
TheNightmareChild just got fitted for a loincloth

On Clara’s relationship with Capaldi’s Doctor: “From a Doctor she could sort of control, because he had a crush on her, she’s landed with a Doctor who barely registers that she’s a girl. They’re great friends and all that but she has to be his human interface with everybody else.” 


Consequences are cool and all, but for me this is what I'm most looking forward to.  I personally adore Clara and while I enjoyed their relationship for the most part, I found their romantic interest in each other a tad cloying.  Plus, she was the fourth out of five female companions to harbor such feelings for the Doctor, so it feels about right for there to be a general shift from that anyway.

Chris502
Chris502

Oh this sounds fantastic. Im glad there's going to be big changes to separate the  two doctor's eras

Luna23
Luna23

I  have no idea what Season 8 will be like, and will simply look forward to finding out.  But I will say this for Steven Moffat.......if he had a checklist of things that the "haters" of Matt Smith, Seasons 5-7 and Steven Moffat wanted from Steven Moffat himself, he could not have done a better job of checking them off. 

ahunter8056
ahunter8056

That sounds great. It seems we're heading in a marvellous direction. I've missed the companions having a family and a proper life before meeting The Doctor, so Clara's family being introduced in 'The Time Of The Doctor' was great. Now onto the fairytale elements. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Series 5-7. However there were moments in which I personally feel it got too silly and unbelieveable. Yes I know, it's a show about an alien with two hearts who can change his face. But there still has to be some degree of believability to it. The fairytale elements being toned down sounds like a very interesting direction. I can't wait! :D

Planet of the Deaf
Planet of the Deaf

How nice to have an active article, full of comments and disagreements again. I've missed this :-)

kreehomel
kreehomel

A crush on her? Hmmm....I think the Doctor was enamored with the mystery she presented, rather than anything romantic. And when he wasn't treating her like a puzzle, I felt he acted more like an absurd uncle than anything.

HitchcockWhovian
HitchcockWhovian

I'm becoming immune to the Moffat waffle, I think. IF he's telling it like it is, then I'll welcome this change with enthusiastic open arms. It's just... well, he does have a history of... *uncomprimising stare from Moffat diehards* being very lovely.

KingOfTheInterWebs is a Tree
KingOfTheInterWebs is a Tree

@Notsosmartguy approves of female thor  I agree. The fairytale style fit Matt Smith's era immensely, especially series 5 and I feel really worked in my eyes. I feel Moffat took a risk and as far as I feel, it worked and paid off. Just because people didn't die as much as before didn't mean there were less consequences, it was simply his idea for a direction to take the show and I enjoyed the feeling of it and so did several other people and the series is still here and even grew after Matt's time so it clearly worked. Anyone who says it was bad can only say it was bad insofar as they and some other people thought it was bad. It was about as bad as me saying it was good makes it good. It's all a perception, so it's silly people are stating it should never have been a fairytale and so forth, it's not their call, it's the showrunner's call. To be honest sometimes it seems people just want a reason to complain at Moffat, the new direction is bad, the old one was bad, one episode or another was bad etc. etc. I feel sorry for the guy.

Noybusiness
Noybusiness

@Liana21 I'd say Four was more difficult than Three despite being younger, and I think Sarah Jane would agree.

Skylord Maldon
Skylord Maldon

@Mercy Reborn2 I get the feeling it would be her gran, she was the nicest of the family in TIme of the Doctor. The step mother I could frankly give no care for.

MarlonJBonnici
MarlonJBonnici

@Notsosmartguy approves of female thor @MarlonJBonnici 

God forbid not all of us like fish fingers and custard, timey wimey wibbly wobbly nonsense, daft dancing at weddings, pseudo tension building like a character we've only just met dying, cop out explanations for plot holes, and perhaps the worst "Kiddification" Of the show its ever seen.

Oh and before you hide behind the usual "The show was much more for kids under RTD" Argument I said the same thing about him.

This is my opinion, you don't have to like it or agree, but this is all the explanation or response you're getting so remember that before you try and argue.

Polyphase
Polyphase

@EvolutionOfTheDoctor What's wrong with Tegan? She was a strong independant character who even though the Doctor wouldn't/couldn't return her to heathrow still bravely protected the Doctor at every opportunity. :)

YaelMoise waits for the trees to take over
YaelMoise waits for the trees to take over

@TheOncomingSnow @TheNightmareChild sees into your soul! And in the middle of series 5, and at the end of series 5... and even to the point where, in series 6, Rory wasn't sure whether she meant him or the Doctor when she "prayed" for someone to come and get her... and they even toyed with us a bit in the middle of series 6 with regards to the baby's parentage. 


The "Amy has a thing for the Doctor" didn't just end at the beginning of series 5, you have to admit. It was a recurring theme, even if in the background, for a very long while afterwards.

Malohkeh
Malohkeh

@TheOncomingSnow Yes, we Moffat fans are gifted with great and terrible abilities. To not tempt us into using them!

TonySimmons
TonySimmons

@Polyphase @EvolutionOfTheDoctor  Totally right. Tegan wasn't the stereo type screaming companion but a lady who had the hump that she'd been taken away from her cabin crew job! Later on she mellowed and started enjoying her travels, but in the end was sick of the killing and decided to end her travels. Also, she wasn't always being complimented by the Doc as 'amazing' etc, there was even a bit of hostility, but in the end he was gutted she left. Things were a lot more natural then and not so fluffy and false as today. I'm sick of the flirty type relationships between Doc and companion that we've had a lot of since Rose (the most over rated companion!)