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Five Expectations for Series 8

Guest contributor Toby Hankin goes through five fan expectations for the upcoming run.

With Series 8 drawing closer and closer by the day, I thought it would be good to go through five expectations that we Whovians have for the upcoming run. So without further ado…

A Darker Doctor

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Ever since Peter Capaldi was cast in the lead role, fans have been speculating on what sort of Doctor he will be. We know that Capaldi usually takes on darker roles. Look at the Cardinal in The Musketeers and the foul-mouthed Malcolm Tucker in The Thick of It. Both of those characters have very dark qualities. But our question is: Will 12 follow suit? Well, having seen the new trailer, us Whovians can assume Doctor Who will indeed be heading more “Into Darkness” during Capaldi’s reign.

“Classic Era” type series

pertwee-capaldi-costumeIt’s almost inevitable that this series will be much more like the “Classic Era”, seeing as Capaldi was the same age as Hartnell when he was cast as the Doctor some 50 years ago. He has the looks, the greying hair, a couple of lines here and there. He has the personality, this Doctor can roar! He has the companions: two school teachers in one TARDIS, both from Coal Hill. Not to mention rumours of a younger companion later on. Also, it seems clear that Capaldi will channel a bit of Pertwee. The costumes are very similar and they are both sciencey-wiencey. 12 is practically a mix between 1 and 3 in the making!

Main focus on plot, not companion

Series-8-TV-launch-trailer-(28)First let’s just say: Who doesn’t like Clara? Well, a fair few of you. But those who do like her (me for instance) obviously adored Series 7. Not only was Clara involved in the plot, she was the plotthe Impossible Girl. Yes, this was a superb idea from the mad mind of Steven Moffat. But, some fans just got sick of the whole story arc by The Name of the Doctor. I think in Series 8 the plot will develop around the episode rather than the companion. But in defence for the Impossible Girl arc, I thought it was gripping and made you anticipate each episode just hoping you would find out who Clara was. Well, it certainly gripped me!

Serious monsters

Series-8-TV-launch-trailer-(13)I think you know what I mean by “Serious Monsters”. But if not, I mean no Abzorbaloffs, or the cheesy Crooked Man from Hide. Not to mention those robots from Dinosaurs on a Spaceship. Having seen the latest Series 8 trailer, I think it’s safe to say that there is baggage that comes with a serious Doctor: more serious monsters. Come on! Look at them: the Half-Faced villain from Deep Breath, Daleks that actually look like they’ll exterminate you, the Robot Knights, the creepy Minotaur-looking creature and finally the Owl-like robot.

A less clingy companion

Series-8-TV-launch-trailer-(33)Of course, in Series 8 we still have the same companion: Clara Oswald. As we all know, from The Day of the Doctor onwards, Clara is a lot less clingy to the Doctor than in (let’s say) The Rings of Akhaten. Fair enough, it was her first proper outing to an alien planet, I think I’d be clingy. But now that Clara has been tied down with responsibilities like teaching at Coal Hill and living her own life, I think she will not rely on the Doctor as much and sort of be her own person. Also, “her Doctor” has now gone and has been replaced. I think clinging onto Capaldi’s Doctor would be like hanging off some thorns.

So, there are the top five expectations for Series 8. Feel free to comment your thoughts below!

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felixvitae3
felixvitae3

True monsters are defined by what they do and what they are capable of doing rather than how they look?

microbat98
microbat98

It's not the arc that makes me dislike Clara; it's Clara. Her way of talking and attitude is just painful. It's like she's trying to be quirky and weird, but failing miserably. I just don't like it.

ProfWimsey
ProfWimsey

There is no way that this show will go back to plot-driven stories over character-driven stories.  There simply are no TV shows left that use plot-driven story-telling.  Remember, plot and story are very different things: and plot must serve to tell story.  In character driven story telling, plot serves to develop characters: either by informing us who they are, or introducing intrinsic character conflict.  The stories will continue to be about the companions AND the Doctor figuring out who they are in the face of things that we call plot elements.  

ConnorFrye
ConnorFrye

I would love it if Capaldi's Doctor was like the Third Doctor, as he is my favorite :)

fullwolfmoon
fullwolfmoon

I'd love to see this darker side of the Doctor more often so a 'darker' Doctor is welcome. I think as a long time fan, that the newer fans need to see and be reminded how alien the Doctor truly is. That he isn't the lovable boy next door even though he can have those qualities at times. And this is just personal, but I also would really, really love to see Mr. Moffat not reduce a female character down to a 'feisty, abrasive, married, baby maker' in the end.  Feisty/abrasive does not equal strong/independent like he seems to think. I've seen some beautifully written calm, quiet, gentle characters who showed their strengths through their actions. And could still be poked at for the sake of comedy. There are also plenty of people who don't end up married with kids, or aspiring for that. There are also tons of people who ARE married with kids, but aren't defined by that alone. But I don't think those ideas will ever be explored with Clara. I'm sure she'll end up as the feisty married baby maker when it's all said and done since this particular writer doesn't seem capable of stepping outside of that limited box. He's not the best at character development, especially with females, but at least Mr. Moffat makes some interesting twisty, turny conceptual plots which are fun. I look forward to this new series. 

 Notsosmartguy  the dalek of Jersey
Notsosmartguy the dalek of Jersey

I hope the zygons return during 12's run at some point Moffat seemed to have plans for them based on the ending of day of the doctor.

BobbieBob
BobbieBob

Oh thank God. A grown up doctor without people to babysit.  Way too much focus on Companions over the last few series. I hope Capaldi will bring some gravitas with him, as both the role and the show are in desperate need of it. I'm not sure why Hankin associates Capaldi with "darker roles"; take a look at Capaldi's resume. He is a great  dramatic actor, though. What I really really want is John Simms as the Master in the series finale. Could happen: Now that RTD is gone, people are coming back from the dead left right and center.  Fingers crossed.

Mati C
Mati C



What i really want to see in series 8 is: two parters, The Master (Specifically his reaction to the return of Gallifrey), an episode that takes place in the Gamma Forests (I don't know why, i just do) and to see the Daleks actually ''exterminating'' someone. Btw that monster looks like a robotic Turian lol (Mass Effect fans will know what i mean)

GRANDMARSHALL
GRANDMARSHALL

The expectation many would like to see is That the stories are told without rushing ,And make the story arcs MAKE SENSE! The way moffet explained the Silence, the tardis blowin up WAS RIDICULOUS ! ,Because HE WAS FORCED TOO BY FANS He again just tryed to be too clever! If Moffet cant answer one of the mysteries he created He has a fail safe mechanism "THE DOCTOR LIES"

allons_ywibblywobbly
allons_ywibblywobbly

Speaking of series 8 expectations... 'I have no idea where this will lead us, but I have a definite feeling it will be a place both wonderful and strange.' Well, I guess I'm feeling Dale Cooperish today :))



JJ2000
JJ2000

My main expectation is I want good writing. If you don't know what I mean, watch Series 7 Part 2 Episodes 7-12, that's the opposite of what I want. Also watch the 2013 Specials, I want the opposite of that. Many will disagree, it's your opinion, as this is mine.

JFrance
JFrance

As we are probably entering a more serious series/era. I think there will be less of the silly words like Timey Wimey. Don't get me wrong I don't mind the silly words Timey Wimey is a classic but I can't picture Peter Capaldi saying Timey Wimey. To me It sounded odd when John Hurt said Timey Wimey in Day of the Doctor.      

TheOncomingStorm
TheOncomingStorm

What is it with people not liking clingy companions anyway? I can see how it could get annoying done to the extreme, but seriously, I think it's quite realistic. If you put yourself in their position, you wouldn't want to let the Doctor go off and do stuff without you. And if you had a crush on him, like pretty much every modern companion minus Donna (yes, including Clara), you'd probably be a bit jealous if someone else came along, or you'd be shocked to find out you were just the latest in a long line. And why can't they fall in love with him? He's still a person, it could happen.



Liana21
Liana21

1. A grumpier fatherly Doctor, darker but not scarier.

2. A relationship with Clara closer to Jo's, Sarah's or Donna's than Rose's

3. A better development for Clara and the new UNIT

 Notsosmartguy  the dalek of Jersey
Notsosmartguy the dalek of Jersey

I don't get why Clara's clingy. Look at Rose, Martha(to some extent during her run), and Amy ( during series 5) they were pretty clingy most of their companion runs. I do think Clara  did have some kind of crush on him but I feel she is independent like Donna, she actually holds down, a job and she doesn't run off with the doctor forever she makes him work around her schedule.

The Finn
The Finn

Where has it been said Capaldi's Doc will be sciencey-wiencey?

GrannyMumantoog
GrannyMumantoog

@ConnorFrye Jon Pertwee was my favorite too! It's too bad he was stuck on earth for nearly all of his tenure, but he was fun to watch and had a very serious, no nonsense attitude. You always knew he was an alien & something beyond the average human in every way! And, of course that's where we first got to meet Sarah Jane!


Judging by the costume and a few glimpses of his demeanor, I think there will be a touch of #3 in #12 :)

So, a bit more no nonsense, "I'm an alien & I know more than you" would certainly be in my top 5 expectations for S8. 

I actually tweeted my own 4 item wish list in June!!


My wishlist for Doctor Who S8 (new who) 

1 Good regeneration follow-up scene 

2 Good new monsters/aliens 

3 No daleks 

4 New Master appearance

As you see I already didn't get my third wish :) 

 Notsosmartguy  the dalek of Jersey
Notsosmartguy the dalek of Jersey

@BobbieBob I'd rather they save the master's return for another time the cyber men need the story more. Also I thought that the doctor was the focus during 11's run though that's my interpretation.

supermoff
supermoff

@Mati C  There will be only one double-parter this series; the finale. But I like your episode ideas.

ProfWimsey
ProfWimsey

@GRANDMARSHALL Actually, what probably forced Moffat into explaining the explosion the way that he did was Smith departing a season earlier than Moffat expected him (Matt) to do.  How much of that was miscommunication or the effects of BBC budget cuts that caused them to spread one series over two seasons or what else, Time of the Doctor seemed like a synopsis of an over-arching plot more than an individual story.  Had Smith stayed for another series, then the major elements (the Doctor and the audience discovering that he didn't have enough regeneration energy for a full regeneration; the Silence Schism; the nature of the never-ending way; etc.) could have come up over a series of stories.



MeglosProductions
MeglosProductions

@JJ2000  Am I the only one that preferred Series 7B to 7A? I mean, 7A was just TERRIBLE. The only saving graces of 7A were Chibnall's episodes.

Liana21
Liana21

We had Christopher Eccleston saying jiggery pockery and Jon Pertwee going for the venusian lullaby

supermoff
supermoff

@TheOncomingStorm There's nothing wrong with companions falling in love with the Doctor or vice versa. I just think we should have a departure from that dynamic, look at more best-friend kind of dynamics. 

MaddyKika
MaddyKika

@Notsosmartguy approves of female thor I think you're right. Rose, Clara and Donna are my favorites, but I don't argue when somebody says that Rose was like that because she was (and to be fair so was Ten), but Clara I really don't see that, for me she's even more independent than Donna.