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DWM #471: 50 Years of the Daleks

The cover for issue #471 of Doctor Who Magazine has been revealed. The special souvenir issue celebrates 50 years of the Daleks.

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Outer cover:

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DWM #471 is on sale Thursday 6 March 2014, priced £4.99.

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ThePhoneboxes
ThePhoneboxes

Special cover...does that mean the price for this ish will go up?

DalekAgent
DalekAgent

Oh look - I'm defending my favourite monsters for what must be the billionth time!                                         Overused? No - Hartnell and Pertwee had a Dalek story almost every season. They have been mis-used; the arc villains in series 1,2,4 and 5 - and much too easily defeated in series 4 (massive letdown!). They were brilliant in Day of the Doctor, and, although perhaps not necessary in Time of the Doctor, they didn't disappoint (Tasha Lem certainly did!).                                                                                                      New Paradigm? They are still recognisably Daleks. The colours have been darkened, the shape looks fine from the front, interesting (in a general way) from the side and their new height is impressive. They still look cunning and dangerous. It's just RTD and Moffat don't give them enough of a chance. And neither do we. It's criticism after criticism. Watch a classic Dalek story. Listen to the Dalek Empire audio spinoff. Remember why we love the Daleks as such brilliant villains, and let them have a moment of 50th glory, rather than quibbling like Gallifreyans over the cover design. Seriously - the Daleks deserve better.



the_ponds_forever
the_ponds_forever

#470 just came to stores in the US.. ): I spent ten dollars on it but is was worth it!

Judge Claude Frollo
Judge Claude Frollo

Sweet!

This reminds me, next week I'll be buying some of these from iTunes. I have a 15 dollar budget and I'm definetly going to buy the 50th and the Light and the End issues. That amounts to 11 dollars. Which other issue should I pick? The issues I can afford are from 456-464.

Chris502
Chris502

Still no love for the paradigm.. 

Polyphase
Polyphase

That first cover is neat but Daleks should be all flat black except for the Dalekanium balls which should be a titanium colour :)

Americanwhovian
Americanwhovian

the daleks need a change of color. the bronze was good for the time war but now its time for a new generation

The Rani
The Rani

Exterminating Anniversary Daleks! My goodness you don't look a bit older ;-)

The Rani
The Rani

Thank goodness it's not the power ranger daleks! 

Moxx
Moxx

Awesome - simple proof that the 2005 Daleks will NEVER grow old!

JFrance
JFrance

I like the look of the 2 posters, they look great. 

MaraBackman
MaraBackman

Is that an Imperial Dalek? A bit hard to tell with the blueish lighting, but to me it looks like a predominately white Dalek that's gone a bit grimy.

LucasW
LucasW

Is this going to be like the 50th anniversary one - in a cardboard wallet?

Special Weapons Dalek
Special Weapons Dalek

Damn that is amazing! shame the poster is double sided... I wan't both on my walls! D:

Iris Wildthyme
Iris Wildthyme

Urgh, and here's to another 50 years with the things. Love a Dalek, but goodness gracious. Hopefully they're given a bit less of a role in all media over the next few years (audios and TV alike).

Ninjauthor
Ninjauthor

I'd like to see one of them in london, those images (and indeed those episodes) are the most iconic dalek story in the shows history for me

WellSpokenMan
WellSpokenMan

Pity that the main cover is just three 2005 Daleks; why not one of them be a 60s Dalek and the other a Supreme from the 70s or 80s?

OliverTrussell
OliverTrussell

@Moxx  As long as they keep finding new ways of including them, they can stay. I like the Moff's idea of insane Daleks, not such a fan of the half dalek-half timelord from s3 though :p

NeutronFlow
NeutronFlow

@Moxx  A classic design, based on the original classic design. 


The original and best!

The Finn
The Finn

@LucasW  I'd suspect the "lightning Dalek" picture is the wallet picture.

andyot7777
andyot7777

@Iris Wildthyme  The Daleks haven't actually had that many stories since the show returned in 2005. Counting two parters as one story since they're two halves of a whole, the Daleks have only featured prominently in TEN STORIES since the show came back. Hardly overused. They were completely absent for all of Series 6 minus a cameo in The Wedding of River Song, and they had one one-part story in Series 7. Then their major appearances in Day of the Doctor and Time of the Doctor. I wouldn't call them overused in the modern era. Though I do think they should have a reduced role to only one story per year.

tbuxton42
tbuxton42

@Iris Wildthyme  My thoughts exactly- it's hardly DWM's fault given their prominence in the modern (and classic) incarnation of the show, but I've tired greatly of the now-traditional annual Dalek cover and the unrevelatory feature articles which come along with it, yet again rounding up that which we already know about Skaro's infamous inhabitants. I suppose that the prolonged waiting time between The Time of the Doctor and Season Eight has resulted in DWM's needing to examine the tropes and elements of the series which have also had 50th Anniversaries of late, but I await the return of previews of the new season and features on its episodes' implications with eager anticipation.



ChazaHinch
ChazaHinch

@WellSpokenMan  But more importantly, why is the dalek 50th anniversary issue being released 3 months late 0_o but I do agree, it shouldnt just be 2005 dalek.



Chris502
Chris502

@NeutronFlow @Chris502  Indeed, they were so stupid in that story where they were actually getting to do stuff and..oh waaiit, they didn't get given a chance to do much because fans complained right away, silly me.

Americanwhovian
Americanwhovian

need to move on the dalek color sceme has changed everry few doctors the bronze ones hve reigned from war to 11 not like the paradigm wich was a whole new redesign

andyot7777
andyot7777

@OliverTrussell @Moxx  You mean Half-Dalek Half-HUMAN, don't you? That's what the thing was in season 3 in manhattan. There was NEVER a half-Dalek half-Timelord.

DalekAgent
DalekAgent

@NeutronFlow @Moxx  Certainly got a lot against the Paradigm Daleks don't you? I think they have just as much in common with the classic daleks - if not more. Blue, red and white are traditional Dalek colours (I agree, orange is not the best choice - but they toned it down for Asylum!) and the shape has not changed too much from the front. From the side, yes, there is a hunchback - but it adds something new, something almost Machiavellian when cast in shadow.                                                       But the original design is best - not the Time War, or the New Paradigm, or even the 1970s Daleks. Hartnell and Troughton's Daleks are the best. Pure, alien terror.



MaraBackman
MaraBackman

Yeah, you're probably right. But it did look like it could have been a more pale Dalek with golden bumps and highlights.

GooberMan
GooberMan

Ten stories, hey? In between Jon Pertwee starting and the show's revival in 2005, there were eight Dalek stories.

andyot7777
andyot7777

@Friend of the Ood @WellSpokenMan  I would hardly say that the new ones are what most people would know. The majority of Doctor Who fans alive would sooner remember a classic Dalek before the 2005 ones. Only a couple of million NEW Who fans would recognise the 2005 Dalek first. But most of the fans would sooner prefer a Classic Dalek, and would sooner recognise one because the majority of fans are fans that came over from the classic era.

WellSpokenMan
WellSpokenMan

@Friend of the Ood But the 60s ones are more iconic in terms of being the first Daleks and as its celebrating 50 years surely some classic Daleks should be on there not just three bronze Daleks; the outer cover just looks a bit boring to be honest

NeutronFlow
NeutronFlow

@Chris502 @NeutronFlowThey are a cynical redesign of a classic that needed no adjustment, created purely for marketing purposes, so they could sell more Dalek toys to those who already owned Dalek toys!

A design classic adulterated for no other reason than money? 


Yes, from me there is absolutely no love for the paradigm. 

They are an unnecessary abomination borne out of nothing but greed.

Oh, and i'll thank you not to take that childish tone with me ... 

floppy_who
floppy_who

@Americanwhovian My CO voice activated dalek's eye light turns from blue to red when it gets fed up receiving voice commands and then goes off around the house doing its own thing. Very cool, but scares the cat something rotten.

Americanwhovian
Americanwhovian

I think a black casing with a red eye would make them much scarier

Special Weapons Dalek
Special Weapons Dalek

@Liana21  Not sure about the red lights.. Basically Resurrection colour scheme with red eye light? I remember the DWM cover for Asylum had a Bronze Dalek with a red Eye I was quite sad to find there was no red eyed Dalek in it!, It should also have the Plunger stick and Gun stick be in black. I would say stick with the clear white dome lights but make the cage black.

GooberMan
GooberMan

@DalekAgent Well, if we're doing FYIs on things we already know, Daleks didn't appear in the old school series 5, 6, 7, or 8. A gap of four years. Then they appeared in 9, 10, 11, and 12 before having another gap of four years. If you look at those figures and compare it to the "overuse" claim that goes around fandom with the modern series, a more astute conclusion would be that the new series has not given the Daleks extensive gaps like the old series did, so the anticipation of a new Dalek story is more of an "Again?" rather than an "About time!"



DalekAgent
DalekAgent

@GooberMan  Hartnell and Pertwee had a Dalek story almost every season FYI.  Which is a lot like ... let me think ... oh yes! Tennant and Smith! If RTD hadn't used them as the arc villain nearly all the time, I doubt opinion would have turned against them.

WellSpokenMan
WellSpokenMan

@Huknar @WellSpokenMan @Friend of the Ood  I do want a bronze one on there but three of the same Daleks on one cover is really boring. The Doctor one had War, 10 and 11 on it so it was a cool cover whereas this just has three Daleks that look the same. I just think some variation would be nice. The Imperial Daleks look great even today so they could be on here; they were on the monopoly Doctor Who cover so why couldn't one be on the front cover? I'm just a bit fed up of the Bronze Daleks because they have been so overused; yes they look great but if they were going to have three Time War Daleks couldn't they have at least used different variations like Sec, the Imperial Guard Dalek instead of three bog standard TW Daleks.  Plus the 60s Dalek is not an inferior design; also since when were they made of tinfoil? Thats such a generic argument? 60s Daleks still look pretty good; yes the TW Dalek looks so real and fantastic but don't knock the originals just because they are old. It was those silver Daleks that created the legacy

Huknar
Huknar

@WellSpokenMan @Friend of the Ood  There really isn't much difference between them. The 2005 dalek design is just perfection. It's made all the pieces more real, and less tinfoil. The bronze design is just wonderful and very, very faithful. I can't see why you'd want an inferior design to mark fifty years?