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Daleks Series 8 Rumours

time-of-the-doctor-tv-trailer-(13) dalekSince filming began earlier in the year it’s been rumoured that Peter Capaldi will face the Daleks in Series 8. The Star are today reporting this, although apparently it wasn’t always the plan due to how frequently they have appeared of late.

They state:

Peter Capaldi will fulfil a lifelong dream of fighting the Daleks in his first series as the new Doctor. BBC bosses originally wanted the 2014 series of the Time Lord’s adventures to be “exterminator-free’’. The Daleks featured in both last November’s 50th anniversary episode The Day Of The Doctor and also the Christmas special The Time Of The Doctor. So TV chiefs reckoned they should disappear for a while to allow the new Doc to tackle a new batch of monsters. But Capaldi, 55, who admits he is massive fan of the show, told producers it had been his childhood dream to fight the iconic pepperpot villains – and he has got his wish.

There are no actual details on when exactly, but previous reports said it’ll be sooner rather than later. Episode 2 could be a likely candidate. Writer Phil Ford previously gave us the clue “behind enemy lines.” Could he have been referring to the Daleks?

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Whogasms
Whogasms

Doctor Who TV you're correct again

sciflie
sciflie

in my opinion they should've left the daleks in series 8 and brought them back at the end of series 9. . i remember at the end of turn left when donna said 'bad wolf' it was brilliant but the daleks just dont have that excitement anymore. This led to two amazing dalek stories as they didnt feel rushed and had good plots and were a real problem for the doctor who had given up more then once in the episodes.

LeightonWestwoo
LeightonWestwoo

the master should return in a recuring role like in the john pertwee era.

ChrismichaelCk
ChrismichaelCk

I hope so because i think doctor who needs to get back to its roots a bit more

Jamie Reviewer
Jamie Reviewer

I Think The Rumours For The Daleks In Series 8 Are Going Too Be Good ....  :-) 


fox123
fox123

I remember someone saying your not the doctor until you have faced the Daleks.

IanKerns
IanKerns

actually, the contract between the BBC and the Terry Nation estate make it impossible for the Daleks to appear any less than once a series, as it was one of the stipulations to their return in 2005.

TheIdleIdol
TheIdleIdol

Nooo, Peter! It'll be a much more meaningful moment if we have to wait for it! I'd hate for the Daleks to consume another series finale just yet, but at the same time their impact will be lessened tenfold if they appear early on in Peter's run, like with VotD. They could get away with it in Series One because the show had suffered a 16-year absence, but now we're all fully accustomed to the show again it requires something more special to keep the Daleks interesting and exciting. I'd much rather they be used sparingly, appearing no more than once every couple of series and then cropping up for the major landmark episodes. The less we see of them, the more exciting it'll be. 


WhoPotterVian
WhoPotterVian

Thank  god. The idea of a Dalek-free New Who series is  terrifying. 

firstdavros1975
firstdavros1975

I don't mind a PROPER good dalek story to be honnest, it's been a while...As long as it's written by someone who already has "dalek experience" (Nick Briggs I'm talking to you ;))

teddybowties
teddybowties

i always thoughtthe skittles Daleks could just join the Doctor and then go all YMCA. That would be fitting. Make them a group that splinters off and realizes it's great to be good, like Strax. perfect. you know, they could be the Doctor Who version of the Tachikomas from Ghost in the Shell. Only wiht plungers and spoons isntead of guns becaues they've given those up in favour of helping Clara with the souffle.




Handbot10
Handbot10

To be honest, I wouldn't mind seeing the Daleks again. The day of the doctor and the time of the doctor weren't proper dalek stories for me. I want to see a proper Dalek Story. A scary one.

Special Weapons Dalek
Special Weapons Dalek

If the Daleks are going to return for series 8 we need more variants of the Time War Daleks like a Special Weapons or Scout Dalek just something new that is not just a Bronze one.. They are good but they need new classes of Dalek. Remove the Paradigm, Completely. Nick Briggs needs to write the episode or hopefully one in the future he has proven in Big Finish he can make the Daleks truly terrifying creatures..    'These creatures have ravaged half the cosmos. They're experts at this kind of thing. Nothing can stand in their way.'

Diana van der Pluijm
Diana van der Pluijm

I don't mind seeing Daleks, as long as the story's done properly. Because to me they haven't felt like a real threat ever since the Skittle Daleks.

Tardis Stowaway
Tardis Stowaway

A bit unrelated, but apparently the next Dalek episode will be their 100th, or at least according to Wikipedia, which says they have appeared 99 times as of Jan 2014. Of course some things on Wikipedia aren't necessarily the truth, but I just wondered if anyone knew whether this is correct or not? It's quite a big milestone.

awkward912
awkward912

This "deal" that the Daleks have to appear once a year: it's rubbish, right? There's no evidence that it exists that I've seen, and plenty to the contrary: Moffat saying he didn't plan to put a Dalek in series 6 at all till he came to write the TWoRS scene, for instance.


PS I say save Daleks till Christmas. Give them a proper festive story, and that will feel "special" after being absent for 12's first series proper. 

seb_masters
seb_masters

We need to see a good 2 parter dale story, not some rushed crazed episode!

VictorWong1
VictorWong1

Sylvester McCoy said it best: he didn't feel like he was a proper Doctor until he got to do a Dalek episode.

It is true that the Daleks did get overused in the past year, which was unavoidable because the last two specials had to deal with the Time War as a major plot element. In both cases, the Daleks were treated as a sort of generic Universal Threat, which made them impersonal and therefore not really frightening.

And the simple fact of the matter is, the Daleks have been around too long for the general viewing audience to regard them as anything other than (a) a nostalgic joke, or (b) a general "universal baddie" at best.

Russell Davies, to his credit, did try to experiment with making them more personal and therefore more potentially frightening. But the method he chose (integrating human DNA) risked torquing the generally-accepted idea of the Daleks into something unrecognizable as the "classic" Dalek archetype, and so it wasn't followed up on.

So the first time Moffat tried to do something with the Daleks -- "Victory" -- it didn't quite work mainly because we had the Porsche Panamera Daleks becoming the threat. He had better success with "Asylum" because he was able to introduce the Dalek drone. The idea that an ally could suddenly sprout an eyestalk and turn on the Doctor has plenty of room to instil the uncertainty that's needed for a good scare. Imagine Jenny Flint or Clara becoming a drone, and suddenly the viewer isn't comfortable anymore.


So, yes, it would be a good idea for Capaldi to face a Dalek threat early in his first season. The real trick would be to get a story that made the Dalek interaction with the Doctor more intimate and personal, and throw in something that would make the viewer doubt that the new Doctor could come out on top -- at least, not without some serious consequences down the line.

tcexect
tcexect

Pinch of salt. If true I hope it doesn't result in a rushed episode.

Judge Claude Frollo
Judge Claude Frollo

I'm going to be a little cautious about this. Some rumors have been true lately (Tom Baker appeaing in the 50th, Matt Smith actually being the thirteenth incarcination of the Doctor), but then again some haven't (Donna Noble returning, that James Bond guy being casted as the Twelfth Doctor).

If I was born watching Classic Who, though, if I became the Doctor my first wish would be to actually face the Terible Zodin on screen :p

Wastemaster24
Wastemaster24

i don't mind this but what i would really like is a 2 season arc that ends with a master 3 parter

JFrance
JFrance

They were saying that Matt Smith and David Tennant were going to leave in their 1st series and that was untrue so I say don't believe it. I don't know where people are getting this information from. As for the Daleks I don't mind them returning just make it a good episode.          

Kiler1995
Kiler1995

I'm kind of confused concerning the obligations of Daleks appearing in Doctor Who once a year. As you can see below, the Daleks didn't appear in any Doctor Who episodes which came out during 2009:


2005 - Dalek, Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways

2006 - Army of Ghosts/Doomsday

2007 - Daleks in Manhatten/Evolution of the Daleks

2008 - The Stolen Earth/Journey's End 

2010 - Victory To The Daleks, The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang

2011 - The Wedding of River Song

2012 - Asylum of the Daleks

2013 - The Day of the Doctor, The Time of the Doctor

KingOfTheInterWebs has a Broom
KingOfTheInterWebs has a Broom

I doubt this is the case but it would be nice to have a proper Dalek story if they do a Dalek story (Which once again, I doubt despite jokes of a contractual obligation to have them appear every series of the revival) and in my eyes Asylum didn't count, it wasn't in the same format or really showed the Daleks to be very formidable. (Bar the intensive care scene, though to be honest scariness and formidableness is a point of view) I basically feel a Dalek story of general Dalek-y format (I think it's usually base under siege more or less even if this base tends to constitute an entire town, city or planet sometimes) would be good if they do end up doing a Dalek story in series 8 but I don't fancy a Dalek story unless it's a run of the mill Dalek story that doesn't effect much in the grand scheme of things. (Something a lot of Dalek stories do as well recently, which is why I enjoy Dalek, VOTD, some of the older Dalek episodes and in some ways BW/TPOW more than other Dalek stories (Don't get me wrong though, I like other Dalek stories) We've seen too much of The Daleks in recent years I reckon they're over-worked and need a rest. It would also be nice to see more of The New Paradigm Daleks, we don't see enough of them. (This is all my opinion though)  

DaireConstantineOReilly
DaireConstantineOReilly

That doesn't sound good, (I don't mean the appearance of the daleks),I mean that they are fulfilling his wish, is capaldi only staying for a year or two, this confirms he will have a short run. He is obviously leaving In season one or his second series.

WhovianAvenger
WhovianAvenger

Why is this a surprise? Isn't there some sort of deal with Nation's estate that they have to be used at least once a year in the programme. Hence the appearance in Waters of Mars and Wedding of River Song...

Oodkind
Oodkind

If they do, they need to really redo everything put out in the Smith era. First of all, get rid of the puppets. They sort of worked in Asylum, but were awful in Time, so just ditch them. Also, the whole Dalek community hasn't been as good since The Stolen Earth/Journey's End. They just haven't been scary, because the writers have been afraid of showing them killing people or something. These are the Daleks, we're talking about! We need scenes like when they killed the children on Earth in TSE. 

Besides that, it needs to go back to it's roots and no longer follow Moffat's storyline. Now they don't even know the doctor as the enemy since the begining. All they know is what they took from Tasha Lem and that he killed them with laser arms.

Paulgb
Paulgb

I think the Daleks should be darker and more menacing. They always lose, always. I hope the first story involves Davros and perhaps the start of a Dalek vs Dalek war which threatens the entire safety and stability of the cosmos, perhaps with the Doctor as peacemaker or voice of reason, but ultimately losing and for once running away from the danger just escaping with his life, with increasing snipers of the war throughout series 8 and 9 culminating in the Doctor joining forces with the Master to halt the Daleks.

SolomonRaja
SolomonRaja

I agree. I hope this time we have some sort of Doomsday or Stolen Earth type of Dalek story. We have not seen anyone getting exterminated since Series 5 (Victory of the Daleks) Another thing that annoys me is that, at the end of AOTD, The Doctor just let the Daleks go, with such a huge fleet like that. Its dissappointing to see that the daleks arent a big threat anymore.

Tardis Stowaway
Tardis Stowaway

A Dalek made an appearance in 2009's The Waters Of Mars, in a brief flashback scene. It was only onscreen for about a minute, but new footage was shot for it and not just archive material and so I believe it would still count. :)

Rani Nose
Rani Nose

Maybe they are but we just don't know it yet. Actually, I'd be surprised if the Master returned before Gallifrey is found.

Kiler1995
Kiler1995

@DaireConstantineOReillySounds more like he's eager to fight them and doesn't want to wait.

"Peter Capaldi will fulfil a lifelong dream of fighting the Daleks in his first series as the new Doctor."

Jamesss
Jamesss

Why do people keep spouting this? There's been nothing to say this is true.

Oodkind
Oodkind

@Liana21 Sorry, I mean the Stolen Earth. I had written it earlier in the post, so I thought people would understand.

I think that you need to have them kill people in order for people to understand what they're up against. When they showed the Daleks, or the Master, or any villain killing innocent civilians, it made you realize how evil the villains actually are.