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5 New Who Monsters in Need of a Return

Guest contributor Tomas Edwards picks out five who deserve another shot.

Silence in the Library & Forest of the Dead

Cast your mind over the last nine years of Doctor Who. Specifically, cast your mind over the monsters and villains in that time. You will notice that there have been many instances of Classic monsters returning, especially the Daleks and Cybermen. Now, this is far from a bad thing, but recently I’ve come across a lot of people saying the series should be creating its own classics, its own monsters to really challenge the Doctor, and show their worth.

I’d say that we do need New Who to create more major monsters of its own, but the thing is: it already has. It’s just that the writers always fail to bring them back. Very few monsters made by New Who have returned. Fewer still have returned enough to become truly memorable: the Ood, the Weeping Angels and the Silence being all that stick in my mind. The Silence are bound to an arc that is now over, so their return could be tricky (although not impossible), and I personally am not a fan of the Weeping Angels (let’s not get into that debate), although I don’t doubt they’ll continue to be chucked at our screens for many years to come. But there are many more monsters who deserve to have another story, or in fact stories, to prove their worth.

The last seven series have produced some true greats, and here I am going to list the five who I feel would be the most worthy of gracing our screens again. Before I start I should note that these are not necessarily my favourite monsters that have come from the new series, but those which could benefit the most from a return to our screens. The Flood and the Midnight entity are both monsters I adore as much, if not more, than most on this list, but I feel they worked best as one-off, mysterious monsters.

5. The Judoon

judoonpicJudoon platoon upon the moon. My question is: why haven’t we seen a platoon marching anywhere else? OK, fair enough, they did have a Sarah Jane Adventures episode and small parts in four Doctor Who episodes after their debut, but really I believe they are worthy of so much more. As the intergalactic police, they have a lot of potential in any episode set in the future or on an alien world, shown fighting alien criminals of various kinds, perhaps even those mildly controversial Raxacoricofallapatorians which I’ll admit to having a soft spot for. They could potentially work with the Doctor, as opposed to against him, which could create some interesting dynamics (for a good example of this I suggest the NSA (New Series Adventure – novel) Judgement of the Judoon).

4. The Sycorax

sycorax-christmas-invasionVery rarely before have we been presented with such a rich and intriguing alien culture as that of the Sycorax. We don’t learn much about them, but what we do know leaves them very open for future returns, and further exploration of their culture. I’m especially intrigued by how their armada (which was referenced by the leader in The Christmas Invasion) functions, and whether there are multiple different armies, like tribes. They’re also interesting because of their use of slave labour, which could play a part in a future episode, as well as their generally ruthless nature. I imagine them as the Vikings of the universe, destroying and stealing wherever they go, a primitive but destructive force, and one which could give the Doctor a very hard battle.

3. The Krillitanes

krillitanes-school-reunionCreatures with control over their own evolution. If I was a publisher or something like that and someone pitched me that idea I’d explode with the brilliance of it. But the concept wasn’t focussed on much in School Reunion (which given the other elements in the episode is fair enough), and the Krillitanes haven’t returned to our screens since? Why? They have almost infinite potential, and can be used in all sorts of fascinating situations. Again, I find myself suggesting a brilliant NSA, this time The Krillitane Storm. But, as much as I love that book, I’d much rather see the Krillitanes on the show itself again, as we see them at various stages throughout their evolution as they slaughter more and more races, and as there is a deeper exploration of their culture. Some ideas around the Krillitane hierarchy and ideology explored in The Krillitane Storm are truly fascinating, especially the role of the “esteemed father”, and the rift between differently evolved Krillitanes.

2. The Vashta Nerada

Vashta-Nerada-LibraryShadows that melt the flesh? Does Moffat want us to never have a good night’s sleep again? Well yes, we all know he’s opposed to the idea of not being terrified of everything (pantophobia… “not the fear of pants”). The Vashta Nerada are, in my humble view, much better monsters than their much celebrated Moffat-made fellows the Weeping Angels and the Silence, partially because they have, as of yet, not been misused, and also because they make use of our most primal and basic fear: the dark. In fact, this phobia is a fear of the unknown, something also used to make the Beast, the Midnight Entity and the Flood terrifying, but I’m going off track. The Vashta Nerada also work so well because there is no way to fight them, you can’t defeat them, the Doctor never destroys them, he simply threatens them, and they shy away. But we don’t know if what the Doctor said was an empty threat, or if he actually had a plan to defeat them. I doubt he did. They are a truly formidable and powerful foe, and are very deserving of another chance to fight the Time Lord. Imagine the possibilities, such as an alliance between them and the Weeping Angels…

1. The Beast

doctor-who-the-beastThe Devil himself. Truly, this is the villain to end all villains. You could easily argue that no other villain that the Doctor has fought is as powerful as this monster, and just imagine the chaos if he was free from his prison and at full power. That could be a truly cataclysmic finale, especially if we saw him invade a planet and turn it into his Hell, similar to the Dalek Emperor’s plan for Earth in The Parting of the Ways. The Beast has so many brilliant powers that make him a formidable enemy, such as his power over fire, and his ability to control people’s minds. He is also very physically imposing, standing at something like sixty metres tall, and could make for some very powerful images if we saw him rampaging over an alien city, or sitting on a massive throne made out of rubble and, if they can get away with it, corpses (similar to the statue from Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows). Also, Gabriel Woolf’s voice is brilliant, and we really need more of him. Furthermore, the Beast could really challenge the Doctor on a psychological level, finding and exploiting his weaknesses like the Dream Lord and Davros before him.

Honourable mentions

Doctor-Who-Episode-Amy's-Choice-(4)

The Dream Lord – A brilliant concept, and I’m sure he could return to great effect, played by either Toby Jones or perhaps an old Doctor actor. Popular choices to do this seem to be Matt Smith and Sylvester McCoy.

The Trickster – Not a New Who monster as such, but coming from that oh so brilliant spin-off, The Sarah Jane Adventures. He is a masterpiece of a villain, his modus operandi being one of the most twisted and evil out of any Whoniverse villain (considering he came from a spin-off aimed at kids, that is certainly impressive). Of course, if he did return, he’d have to be played by the splendiferous Paul Marc Davis.

The Hoix – An odd one to mention, I know, but they could potentially work as a minor threat in an episode again, as they did in the Torchwood episode Exit Wounds. Perhaps the villain uses them in a trap for the Doctor, or they’re simply roaming wildly on an alien wasteland that the Doctor has to cross. They aren’t at all complicated, and thus very versatile.

Adipose – I live in hope of one day seeing a fully grown Adipose, perhaps if there’s ever a large gathering of good-natured aliens in one place (as was the plan for the Shadow Proclamation in The Stolen Earth).

So, overall, this is my selection of New Who monsters who I feel deserve to return, and who I think could easily become classics. Doubtless people will disagree with my choices, but I hope I have brought some monsters to the attention of people who have previously underrated them.

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173 comments
duane71
duane71

The creature from Midnight.

Scootersfood
Scootersfood

The Nu Who monsters I want to return the most is Krillitanes and Slitheen/Other Raxicoricofallipatorians/however you spell it. I think having other families of that species would be quite interesting.

The Finn
The Finn

Bring the Krillitanes and Vashta Nerada back!

SteveWillis
SteveWillis

The Vashta Nerada could have a series long easter-egg arc before they are finally revealed later in the series.occasionally through episodes you see objects with more than one shadow or shadows appearing and disappearing. Nothing out of the ordinary. Then it turns out that the Vashta Nerada have been stalking the Doctor for months. In my mind that sounds awesome, but then I realise the question "Why would they do that?". And then my idea falls flat. But I like the idea of shadows appearing and disappearing. Perhaps have them as Creepy Easter eggs.





chandler77
chandler77

I would only like to see the Vashta Nerada return as a barrier to the retrieval of River Song from computer storage. If it can remember it, it can come back.

TheWhiteGuardian
TheWhiteGuardian

Watching the Sarah Jane Adventures, all the attacks the trickster made upon sarah jane were ultimately against the doctor-i.e. stopping her from ever meeting him. In the story, the Wedding of Sarah Jane Smith, the meeting of the Trickster and the Doctor is almost hinted that there is some sort of conflict or vengeance between them. The back story needs to be explored!

bringmeknitting
bringmeknitting

I'd like to see a return for the Dream Lord or the Trickster. The Vashta Nerada were brilliant, but surely they should only return (as any should) if the writers can think of a scenario at least as good as their original appearance? :) 

BeauJesse
BeauJesse

Really? Not the Krynoids? Axons? The Celestial Toymaker? The Rani? The Monk? Davros? The Black Guardian? The Valeyard? Fenric? Rutans? Zygons? The Macra? The Yeti? The Kitlings? The Sea Devils?

So much better monsters than these 5...

RickXeros
RickXeros

I pretty much agree up until the Beast... The Judoon and Krillitane seem the easiest ones to bring back. The Krillitane especially in their concept beg for a return, with their primary trait being altering themselves with new stolen traits so that each time they appear they are different. As a returning villain that opens up so many possibilities! The one I would most like to see return though? The Dreamlord, if only to see Toby Jones brilliantly return to the role!

Swozor
Swozor

Out of all of them, I think the only ones I'd want to see return would be the Vashta Nerada and the Trickster. Mostly the Trickster though. As it was said in the article, the Trickster was truly a twisted and evil being! He *Spoilers for Sarah Jane Adventures* caused Sarah Janes death as a child, the death of her parents and gave her near perfect happiness only for it to be ripped away when it was discovered that the Trickster was behind it! *Spoilers end* He was truly evil and incredibly dark! Also, an appearance in Doctor Who would make a lot of sense since he has battled the Doctor before in the Sarah Jane Adventures, and before that, back in season one, the Trickster said to Sarah Jane "imagine if the Doctor had never existed. What chaos there would be across the universe" and in Series four of Doctor Who, the beetle that changed Donnas past was claimed to be a part of "the Tricksters Brigade". This seems to follow up on The Tricksters threat to Sarah and fits his M.O perfectly. This makes a return of the Trickster very likely and leaves many possibilities for stories.




FisherCrane
FisherCrane

I'd add the Reapers to the list. Problem is, the episode may just become a repeat of Father's Day.  Although if the Reapers did their job properly, they would show up nearly every episode due to the paradoxes caused in recent episodes.

thelonelycenturion
thelonelycenturion

I don't think any of these monster's need a return. Let new ideas and new monsters cross our protagonist's path

gunslinger19
gunslinger19

hmm the vashta nerada could be really good, and of course the dream lord would be wonderful though im not sure if his return would really make sense. perhaps just a darker amalgamation of the doctor? as for the trickster, he was so wonderful, the best thing to come out of sja imo. all his stories were brilliant. the beast could certainly make another appearance, although im not sure if he should have the same form. i dont know if this fits too well into the themes of the show currently so maybe they should wait a few years. but i would love to see a multi series arc featuring the doctor fighting the beast. he could allie himself with the Church which would entail a return from the headless monks and the silence. i imagine the weeping angels could be incorporated as associating them with satan would only make them scarier and frankly, their status as dark angels kind of fits. we could also explore the doctor's religion from gallifrey. i think this would be an interesting relatively unexplored area for who to cover. also, they could have real vampires. i really want to see some real vampires on earth in who. and fish ones do not count.

Master Michael Moon
Master Michael Moon

Where is the Abzorbaloff? Obviously we all want to see it return again. Just imagine the trilogy. The Name, Day and Time of the Abzorbaloff. And of course the return of dim Elton and pavement Ursula. How fun would that be? The excitement of the prospect is dripping from me...


TheGreatCompanion
TheGreatCompanion

Don't forget the Master, he's in need of a return too! (Although he's not necessarily a NuWho villain)


TheOncomingFish
TheOncomingFish

I wouldn't want any of these to return to be honest. The only villains here I really like are the Vashta Nerada and the Dream Lord, and I think they're better off as one hit wonders.

Noybusiness
Noybusiness

I also found the Krillitane to be a really good concept. And the music in "School Reunion" was really excellent, how come it was never on a soundtrack?

Chronos the Fannibal
Chronos the Fannibal

With the Trickster I like how it shows us alternate realities and in SJA what if? stories so hopefully he will appear, and if not the rest of the pantheon of discord

OncomingStorm in a Brownoat with a stake
OncomingStorm in a Brownoat with a stake

I wouldn't mind if all of them returned again,  but no more than once. I agree that the Angels and the Silence have been way overused, but if Moffat could come up with a story that was good enough for them, I'd like to see that. I'd also quite like another with the Midnight entity, but I don't know how that would work. And what you said about the Adipose in the Shadow Proclamation... Have you read The Writer's Tale: The Final Chapter by any chance? I love that book!!!

Stradiwhovius
Stradiwhovius

I'd love to see where the Judoon predominantly operate. I imagine it would be in an otherwise lawless, "The only rule is that there are no rules" kind of society. By their nature they wouldn't have to be the villains, and in that kind of setting I think they could be very interesting to watch. 

The Moment
The Moment

I agree with all of these, apart from The Beast. I think it would ruin it if he came back. 

DavidSJH
DavidSJH

I thought the Crilatains and Jadoon were terrible but I would love a Syckorax/Dream Lord/Trixter episode.

Handles
Handles

I would quite like to see a Weeping Angels origin story. That would be pretty creepy.

teddybowties - the one on FFN not Tumblr
teddybowties - the one on FFN not Tumblr

Vashta neradaaaaaaaaaa and YES Explore the concept of House. ALSO, the Krillitanes, yes. ANDI want to know what is happening on the planet where the Hydrax crashed and the Doctor killed the KING VAMPIRE. Waht is going on there now? ( I named it Perpetuua in a fanfic and had Rassilon visit it through a CVE. It just seemed to work.)





JoehWh0
JoehWh0

If they brought the Sycorax back, I'd hope that the writer of the story would loosely base it on the DWM comic 'The Widow's Curse'. The female members of the Sycorax species come to Earth to try and find out what happened to their husbands. It's a fantastic concept. They'd also have to say the 'No second chances- we're that sort of a clan' line. I love it.


I'd like The Trickster to come back too, maybe they could do a 'Battle for Bannerman Road' story? It sounded like a great one but wasn't filmed due to the sad passing of Liz. They could have Rani, Luke and Clyde back to face the trickster with the Doctor one last time.






JJ2000
JJ2000

This is quite good. 

I wouldn't really want any to return in a sort of way. The Judoon I wouldn't mind as like sort of minor characters, but not an episode focused on them or as big a part as Smith and Jones, or maybe that big a part. The Sycorax, I think they were just really good in the brilliant and second best EVER christmas special: The Christmas Invasion. The Krillitanes, I think they should also just be left. The Vashta Nerada, they were in the absolutely brilliant: Silence In The Library and Forest Of The Dead, but I think they should also just be a spectacular one off monster as I think they might be killed off if they return, if you know what I mean. The Beast, I wanted to see more of, but now I just think he or it rather, should just be left to rot in pain, jokes. I just think that it was quite good when it appeared, that it should just be a one off. I think that they could explore the past of the beast and the ancient myths, etc, e.g. they're like looking on an egyptian wall in an egyptian pyramid and then people get taken over and stuff like that, maybe, just maybe. 



Honourable Mentions: The Dream Lord, I don't think so. The Trickster, YES, YES, YES, YES!!!! The Hoix only as minor, like as mentioned. Adipose, too cute and I think they should be in just that one episode, because I am constantly wanting one as a pet, so please don't ever put me through that pain again. They are just sooooooo cute!!!! 


Raxacoricofallapatorians should definitely return to. Plus The Autons should return every 71 episodes. So basically: Series 10 Episode 12. The Doctor's companion is forced to work in a shop, by The Doctor, because there's some sort of signal there and it's The Master behind everything. I don't know haha lol.


Baker Street is on the Orient Express
Baker Street is on the Orient Express

There is not one monster on this list I disagree with! My personal top spot would be the Vashta Nerada, which is still the scariest Who monster in my opinion, and I love the ideas about the Beast, which, as you say, could be one of the greatest enemies ever. It'd be like Godzilla of the universe. Also, it'd be really interesting to see some evolved Krillitanes (although I wouldn't mind a return of the bat form), and as for the Sycorax and the Judoon, I think that they could do so much more. The Judoon would probably be a sideline enemy, so siding with the Doctor would be a nice idea to watch, while the Sycorax could be some properly terrifying villains if they are done right. The Daleks are scary because of their merciless actions, so maybe the Sycorax can do it too.


The only monster I'd add onto this list is those mildly controversial Raxacoricofallapatorians which I’ll also admit to having a soft spot for. They were my first Who monster, and I think the whole skin suit concept is really gruesome and creepy. And they look remarkably good. Also, their backstory is very interesting,  and being sly, clever and greedy makes for great villains. 

Dannie Madsen
Dannie Madsen

I think the people saying the various villains are better as one-offs are only saying so because they can't create a good story for them. I think all of them are great and any of them could return at any time.

minifigureman11
minifigureman11

I agree with all of these, except the Judoon and Hoix. I wouldn't mind if they were minor characters in the story but an episode centred around them wouldn't be very exciting. One monster that I would really like to return though is the Abzorbaloff! It would be brilliant. (Just kidding!)

sushigal007
sushigal007

I'd like the Krillitane back if only it meant seeing more of Anthony Stewart-Head, tbh.

Dannie Madsen
Dannie Madsen

I agree to this, but not with your underrating of the Weeping Angels and the Silence, and I would also like to see the Raxacoricofallapatorians again, mainly the Slitheen, and perhaps some Blathereen (real Blathereens, not the cross-breeds) or another family, and the Nestene Consciousness. Maybe we could also bring the Torchwood series 3 enemy, the 456, into Doctor Who series 8.

JamesStroud
JamesStroud

The only way that I can see the Beast coming back is if the Doctor falls into a black hole in episode 12, realises that all black holes lead to one place, some sort of cosmic rubbish tip, and then we see the Beast on a massive throne, lording over everything, and it is up to the Doctor to save the innocents that came through black holes from his reign of terror. There is no other feasible way to include him, without retconning his imprisonment on The Impossible Planet or retconning his fall into the black hole

Chronos the Fannibal
Chronos the Fannibal

I want to explore House's species or something similar, though House making another appearance would most likely ruin his first appearance so probably just explore the mythology surrounding him.  But I'm definitley interested in the whole hunting hundreds of time lords thing.

NumberNine
NumberNine

My face is beckoning my palm. I cannot resist.

saintiker1
saintiker1

@FisherCrane  The reapers would be FAR FROM IMPRESSED with Moffats tendency to play fast and loose with any logical outlook and time travel, paradoxes, ect.

Whogasms
Whogasms

@DavidSJH  sorry but *Krillitanes  *Judoon   *Sycorax  *Trickster










 Notsosmartguy Will Kill the Moon
Notsosmartguy Will Kill the Moon

Oh joy another show runner **** measuring contest.

1. Night of the doctor happened before asylum of the daleks.

2. If you meant time of the doctor they clearly explained they took the data from Tasha lem's mind (though while i will always love and defend this episode, personally I wish they hadn't remembered the doctor).

3. The eye of the storm thing never bugged me personally. I more annoyed with the whole "I don't wanna go" junk towards the end of his tenure.

saintiker1
saintiker1

@Amy the Consulting Key Ring @saintiker1 @FisherCrane   Moffat just throws around  timey wimey quasi logic in an attempt to justify the way he disregards or contradicts events than have gone before. The Daleks Are supposed to have forgotten the doctor at the end of alyssum yet this is completely ignored in the night of the doctor for instance.  





The only time you could really accuse RTD of this is the whole year rewinding eye of the storm nonsense from from the last of time lords.