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12 Great Moments From Deep Breath

Mark McCullough picks out his twelve greats for Twelve’s debut.

Note: Episode spoilers naturally!

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In honour of the Twelfth Doctor’s first full appearance in the magnificent Deep Breath, I have selected what I believe to be twelve of the best moments from the episode. Without farther ado, let’s begin the countdown at number twelve:

The Opening Scene

Deep Breath batch  a (1)The moment that announced Doctor Who’s return to the screen after an eight month break. It’s always going to be a memorable scene, but Deep Breath’s is even more so, a blend of hectic humour, character reintroductions and a sense of unfamiliarity. Capaldi’s first moments as the Doctor are rather confusing yet amusing as he struggles to adapt to his new world even forgetting the name of his companion. When the camera panned to reveal the dinosaur, it was hard not to think to yourself ‘I’ve missed this’ and by the time the TARDIS was spat out of the mouth of the dinosaur, it was impossible not to be grinning. A great scene to ease us back in.

Paradise?

deep-breath-heaven-missyFrom the start of the episode to the end, our next top moment is what I assume to be our tease at the arc that is yet to come. Throughout the episode the Half Faced Man references the Promised Land then in the denouement to the episode we see him arrive in what appears to be a garden of some sorts. Here we are introduced to Missy who appears to have an unhealthy obsession with the Doctor (I’m sure we can relate). She informs the Half Faced Man that he is in heaven. It’s a a little confusing and leaves a lot of questions, but at this stage that is the point. It succeeds in whetting our appetites and sending our minds into overdrive.

Clara Takes a Deep Breath

clara-deep-breath-eyesThe title of the episode was an intriguing one which gave little away about it meaning. The scene that reveals it is a very well executed one. Clara is alone and afraid, she finds herself in grave danger with the robots and the Half Faced Man aware of her presence. She takes the titular Deep Breath to present the appearance that she isn’t breathing so as she can escape. Ultimately she is doomed to fail and the directors to a good job in presenting a tense scene which realistically conveys what would happen to Clara as she runs out of Oxygen.

The Dinosaur Burns

dino-dies-deep-breathI really like the dinosaur and the narrative drew some interesting comparisons between it and the Doctor. Ultimately it is the Doctor who brought it here, so its fate rests in his hands. He is aware of this and the rooftop scene is quite comical as the Doctor shouts across London that he will get it home. When the dinosaur spontaneously combusted I honestly didn’t know whether to laugh or cry. What the scene did serve to remind the audience however is that the Doctor’s life is dangerous, innocent people (and dinosaurs) get hurt and his actions have consequences. The scene manages to deliver this message in a way that combines humour and pathos.

Nothing is more important than my egomania!”You actually said that.”

deep-breath-capaldi-coleman-resturantThere were so many wonderful scenes between the doctor and Clara in this episode that it was difficult picking just one for this list. I have gone with the above quote because it had me in stitches laughing and shows how astute Moffat is in his writing. I could equally have chosen the moment were Clara reaches her hand out in expectation of the Doctor grabbing it, or perhaps even the conversation in the TARDIS at the end of the episode. What this wide selection signifies is how the relationship between the Doctor could and Clara is shaping up to be excellent. Their combination of clashes and moments of genuine friendship within the episode makes their relationship seen real and engaging. If this continues they could quickly become my favourite TARDIS team.

The Phone Call

matt-smith-deep-breathGoing into the episode blind you can only imagine my shock at this scene. It is a nice touch that Moffat had this planned from The Time of the Doctor leaving the TARDIS phone off the hook in one of the scenes. Hearing Matt’s voice again was so magical and excepted that it elicited a rather large emotional response as it afforded Clara and her Doctor to have a proper goodbye scene. Suffice to say tears were par for the course especially with Murray Gold’s wonderful score complimenting the scene. The only slight issue is that having the previous Doctor in the same episode of the debut of his successor may undermine it for some. Despite that it is a wonderful moment which tugged at the heartstrings.

The Veil Scene

vastra-veil-deep-breathThe reason I like this scene is because despite being simple, it give an insight into multiple characters. For Clara it showed that she was judgemental despite not intending to be, she had been hit hard by the Doctor’s regeneration and was unwilling to accept the new version as who he was. We also glean a little into Vastra’s plight living in a human world as a green skinned lizard. Moffat uses powerful imagery of Vastra’s veil only being there when Clara sees it to be there. The writing is also top notch and allows the characters to showcase a range of emotions. A consequence of the scene is that it also makes the viewer feel a little guilty for judging Capaldi against Smith so in a way gives him a clean slate.

Clara Draws Strength from her Past

clara-coal-hill-deep-breathI love this scene, not just because it gives a rare glimpse into Clara’s life without the Doctor but because of the development it shows within her character. It adds a new flaw to her as it showcases her inability to control her class and her failed use of empty threats. Fast forward to her confrontation with the Half Faced Man and uses her experience in the classroom to reassert some control on the situation. This shows us how travelling with the Doctor has changed her, she learns from her mistakes and has the confidence to act even when extremely scared. It is one of many scenes that present Clara as a much more rounded yet flawed individual whom many of us can relate to. A wonderful scene, which could serve as a lesson for its viewers.

Strax’s attempted sacrifice

strax-deep-breath-suicideI’ll admit that I didn’t notice this one until it was pointed out to me after the episode. However once I realised what had actually happened it was obvious that it deserved a mention here. As the Paternoster Gang are surrounded by the robots, under Clara’s instructions they hold their breath so as the robots assume they are robots too. Strax however has difficulty with this and the scene subtly shows him raise his gun to his own head so as he doesn’t betray his friends. As pointed out to me this goes against the very nature of a Sontaran and is a true testament to the strength of the bond between the Paternoster Gang. Perhaps it’s surprising that the mainly comical Strax features in one of the most poignant scenes in the episode. The direction plays into this further as it only through the reaction of Vastra that we actually realise what is happening.

The Alley Scene

capaldi-mirror-deep-breathThe alley scene was perhaps the most packed of all the moments on this list. It has three outstanding aspects to it. The first is the discussion on faces and what the Doctor’s choice of face means; it doesn’t really answer anything but does provide for a funny scene. Particular kudos to Brian Miller (the late Elizabeth Sladen’s husband) as his portrayal highlighted the Doctor’s insanity through his body language. The second moment was another laugh out loud one as the Doctor engaged in the obligatory putting his new appearance down scene. This time the unfortunate aspect of his biology was the eyebrows. The third shows how he can go from being comic, to being cold in an instant as he demands the coat of a homeless man. The alley scene allows Capaldi to showcase the range of his character and his talents as an actor, he does not disappoint.

Too slow, no point in him catching us both

clara-trapped-deep-breathThis moment really took me by surprise. I have grown so accustomed to see the Doctor place the safety of his companion above himself, so to see him abandon Clara to apparently save his own skin shows just how different this Doctor is. I imagine its inclusion was to drum home the message of a darker Doctor as rumoured throughout the build-up to the series. I would imagine it would have been controversial to the fandom had it not proved to be part of the Doctor’s master plan which showcased his intelligence. What is also served to do was question the companion’s (and the audience’s) trust in the Doctor, we always suspected he would save her but could not be sure. It is this uncertainty which gave the scene its edge.

The Half Faced Man Dies

half-face-death-deep-breathThis scene is not just one of my favourite moments in Deep Breath, but quite possibly the entire show. Right from the tense conversions between the Half Faced Man and the Doctor we get a sense that there is only one outcome. Yet both men claim that it would be against their programming to do so. They reconcile that one of them is lying as the scene cuts back to Clara and the Paternosters. When we return we see the Half Faced Man is already dead and the scene is left ambiguous. This is the fact that makes it. With a new man, who has been presented as more cold and ruthless, the audience are genuinely unsure as to how far he would go. To leave it open lets you make up your own yet certainly casting a darker shadow over the character.

Conclusion

Making these choices were extremely difficult as there were so many good moments within the episode, I feel I have overlooked a lot. Do you agree with my selections? Or do you feel there are any I left out?

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Angie Whodini just bought a star system
Angie Whodini just bought a star system

I watched this in the cinema, and in the "deep breath" scene... I couldn't help holding my breath. It was so tense and I was rooting for Clara but you could see she was struggling and when we see she has a whole hallway more of androids. So tense... Definitely one of the more riveting scenes in the whole of television I have ever seen. Kudos to the direction.

doctorwhowicked
doctorwhowicked

I'll recommend a mention on Clara's discussion with Vastra. Just because revealed a huge lack on Clara's character. After this discussion finally I feel Clara, as she is, and not only a beautiful and control freak girl. She's more than that as we saw. Another curious hint is, Clara remembered her time before met the Doctor when she was a Teacher who can't control her class. (I bet this will be very important reference to future plot) ;)

jay91lfc
jay91lfc

Some things i liked, some things i didn't:                                                                                                     Like: The Doctor. Capaldi sold it for me as soon as he popped out of the Tardis telling Strax to Ssshh.                                                                                                                                                                          Hate: The new theme tune. How many times must it be changed? Pick one that's good, leave it at that. Not much keener on the opening going through the clocks and cogs. But i guess, TIME and space.                                                                                                                                                                           Like: Clara, One of her best episodes so far. Her scene with the half-faced man was very tense.           Hate: The Half-Faced Man's Plan, How did he actually transport the Dinosaur to Victorian England anyway? Why make a balloon out of Skin if you can transport anything from anywhere. I like Macabre, but it just bordered on silly.                                                                                                                                       Like: Vastra and Jenny, I don't think we needed the kiss, it was just the BBC saying oh look how ok with this we all are, even though we've had gay characters in DW for at least 9 years now (Capt Jack kissing 9) Vastra's veil was a great scene with Clara, and Jenny is kick-ass and is hot! Strax was ok, but it's all a bit one-note from him.                                                                                                                          Hate: The 'New' Tardis interior, What has actually changed besides a few books? No wonder Clara said she didn't like it, nothing has changed!                                                                                                         Like: The half-faced man, aside from his plan. He was creepy, and that eye he stole made you squirm whenever the camera lingered for too long on a sideway view of his face.                                      Hate: Missy. If she is going to be another River/Clara character that we have to guess, then sorry, it won't work. Moffat can't do women without making them a run longing can you guess who it is yet scheme that's resolution is always timey-wimey BS. If she's the master, i turn off DW forever. Michelle Gomez is too panto anyway.









Ivegotkidneys is Breaking in!
Ivegotkidneys is Breaking in!

Did anyone notice the Rose reference when 12 was thinking about how it reminding him of something and then he sniffs some roses

Yaroslav Yuri Erohin
Yaroslav Yuri Erohin

What about the scene where Doctor (as Clara thought) was translating the Dinosaur? I personally think he wasn't which is proven in the last scene. 


"Can't see me. Doesn't see me" 

"Please, just see me"





WHOboy15
WHOboy15

'Do you have a children's menu?' :D Sounds like something 4 would say! :D

DrainOfMorbius
DrainOfMorbius

Would have been much happier if Vastra hadn't stopped Strax

Scootersfood can sense your guilt
Scootersfood can sense your guilt

I think this episode really showed that the Paternoster Gang are able to shine without the Doctor. Seriously hoping for a Spin-Off!! *Fingers crossed*

iMikeZero
iMikeZero

3 things I had an issue during this episode. The new title sequence and theme sucks. The title sequence gets good after the appearance of the Tardis but that is about it. 2nd Clara is the companion who should understand regenerations the most. Also she met The War Doctor who was older than the 12th Doctor. 3rd. The phone call completely undermines the 11th Doctor's fear and excepting his fate as his final death would be on Trenzalore. 









Swozor
Swozor

The death of the Half faced man is very dark indeed. On the one hand, we have a Doctor who may have just killed someone. That is pretty dark. But on the other hand, if the Doctor didn't push him then it means he persuaded him to kill himself. Talking someone into suicide is a very dark thought. Which ever way it happened, it really highlights just how dark this Doctor is. 

Polyphase
Polyphase

I didn't think the phonecall was necessary, It sort of makes you think Clara isn't as smart as she is supposed to be. If anyone understood regeneration it should be her and she shouldn't have reacted like Rose.

TheNightmareChild
TheNightmareChild

The "deep breath" moment all the way is my favorite scene and is already well on its way to becoming an iconic moment.  It was terrifying, it was rather sad as well.  And in that moment when Clara was calling upon her faith in the Doctor, you can just tell on what shaky ground it stands.  She is desperately hoping that she is right and that the Doctor will pull through for her like he always does.  And for a moment there, we as the audience largely aren't so sure either.  Which makes the elation when the Doctor does return and this whole moment is revealed to be his master plan for saving Clara and gathering information all the more splendiferous.



ahunter8056
ahunter8056

I agree with all except the 'Heaven' scene. It's an okay scene, but I already don't like the Gatekeeper Of The Nethersphere character. Seems like another Tasha Lem, who I also didn't really like.

Mercy Reborn2
Mercy Reborn2

I think Deep Breath was full of great moments

Aztecs, Daleks and Cavemen
Aztecs, Daleks and Cavemen

I don't want to use superlatives because the show has got a lot of history and to talk about any part of a story I only saw yesterday in such a way would be weird but it was just so watchable. It was bold and dark.


Also the 80 minute running time was perfect. This is why we need more multi-part stories.

DawnTime
DawnTime

Some wonderful scenes some of my favourites:-

1 Door boring out the window instead

2 restaurant scene great acting and lines

3 jenny and vastra making a james bond entrance rolling in with curcus ribbons and stax falling drama and comedy at the same time

4 Clara talk with the robot man and the doctor rescue

cannot wait to see again Friday bbc 3 everyone

microbat98
microbat98

I still think that the phone call was easily the best part of the episode and one of the greatest scenes on the show ever.

For the first time ever, I looked at a Doctor and could see the previous Doctor, still there; still an echo. Ten was wrong; they don't 'die' and a new person completely goes 'sauntering away', it's the exact same person, but different. I've always knew this, but seeing Twelve desperately try to tell Clara that he is the Doctor, and he remembers talking to her on the phone, was the first time I've ever felt that it is the exact same person.

It's hard to get my point across, but the feeling was magical. Moffat really did well with this scene. The episode was fairly average to me, but that one scene cements itself as one of my favourite of all time, as it just clicks.

MrRazza, Latest Result: Mr Pink is Human
MrRazza, Latest Result: Mr Pink is Human

Having randomly noticed it on iPlayer, one of my favourite moments is when 12 shows the poor man the newspaper with the "Spontaneous Combustion" article. The name of the victim in said article is a "Margaret Roberts" - "Roberts" being the maiden name of Margaret Thatcher... Nicely done Moff!

NewWho2012
NewWho2012

I've watched it a second time now and I am starting to appreciate Deep Breath more. I'm not jumping the gun and saying 'this is my favourite scene/episode of Doctor Who of all time' as I rarely do that, but it did have some good moments in it. I loved the Doctor conquering against the Half-Faced Man, symbolising the characteristics of the classic Doctors, particularly Pertwee, even the Half-Faced Man having to admit that he was 'stronger than he looked'. The scene with the tramp was a strange one but I did laugh when the Doctor said 'the face was fresh on' and he looked freaked out and his Scottish fieriness showing through in both these scenes. 


I really don't see how people don't like Strax because the excuses of 'he ruins the reputation of the Sontarans' is rubbish to me, many just don't have a sense of humour it seems and are too fond of the Classic Series. You do have to remember Doctor Who does change and New Who should be different in many ways to the Classic Series, yet retain some elements like it currently does, although not too much (sorry to be judgemental). I think he's hilarious ('Out of the way human scum!' 'What do you want girl? 'Speak to us boy!' - if anyone is offended by me laughing at this tense scene during NOTD, then I do apologise as I can't contain myself after Strax says this)


The scene between Clara and the Doctor in the restaurant showed off that the Doctor was quite argumentative now as I could see the tempers rising in both of them and I could see he was also selfish when he left Clara behind underground and the poor girl had to hold her breath, looking heartbroken (I thought at first), then saw she was struggling to hold her breath. Also the flashback and insight into her classroom was a nice touch and I felt sympathy for her as she couldn't control them (I know what I'd do in her shoes...) and Moffat got back to his old tricks with the mind games of having the Doctor appear again and the whole scene with the Veil (Madame Vastra's), showing Clara's confusion over the Doctor gaining a new regeneration cycle and turning from young to old. 


Also the minor but funny scenes like Strax throwing the newspaper and hitting Clara and him giving her a body scan with his gadget (and getting slightly too close for comfort) were excellent additions and made me laugh, even Jenny's pose in limited clothing was cheeky from Moffat.


The highlight scene of course though was Matt Smith's cameo, phoning Clara live from Trenzalore. (I didn't realise that we would actually see Matt Smith or that the phone call would be live, from the announcement I had heard here on Doctor Who TV, I thought it was just going to be a voicemail message.) I thought this was very poignant and appropriate but it was very sad to see him quite weak and nearing his impending regeneration. It was ingenius of Moffat to include the Eleventh Doctor reassuring Clara that the new Doctor can be trusted and to trust him, which finally made it work for her. This scene nearly had me in tears, mostly at the point where he ends the phone call ('Goodbye Clara, miss you.') as I always hate it when the Doctors say goodbye, especially for a second time. Didn't affect me as much as it could've done, but if that had been done with Tennant, I would've had a complete overeaction!


My only actual disadvantages and flaws for the episode was the new theme music. I know shoot me if you will but I just don't like it. The horrible 'screamy' section is too high-pitched for my liking and yes if it's supposed to be reminiscent of the 80's era of the show (Dominic Glynn, not Peter Howell, because if it sounded like Peter Howell's theme, I would've taken a liking to it) then it doesn't cut it for me. Plus they've disappointed me again and completely abolished the middle eight from ever returning to the theme tune (well, at least while Moffat's still around) which is annoying as it sounds empty without it. The graphics themselves aren't so bad and I can't live with them, although it would've been nice to see the TARDIS fly through the clock pieces, as though it were a vortex but the reference to the RTD title sequence (TARDIS coming out of one vortex and entering another) has made it more bearable for me. I can't see myself growing to like the graphics but not the theme tune, I hope it doesn't last so long, as I won't be moaning this time about them wasting more money on seldom using the title sequence provided (*cough* 2012-2013 title sequence *cough*).


But otherwise a great episode to start off a new series and I look forward to the next eleven episodes with Capaldi at the helm!


Dameon
Dameon

@jay91lfc I agree with most of what you say, but I believe it was The Doctor (or perhaps more accurately the TARDIS) that transported the dinosaur through time and space, not the half-faced man. Although in this case the TARDIS was actually inside the unsuspecting time traveler, think Captain Jack in Utopia or even Clara in The Time Of The Doctor, both of whom traveled on the outside of the TARDIS. Half-faced man merely spotted it's potential and exploited it's presence.

I also don't think the tedious/gratuitous 'kiss' was much to do with the BBC directly and would have been a joint decision between writer/producer and director, both in terms of what was depicted and how it was presented.

TheDreamer
TheDreamer

The half-faced man didn't transport the dinosaur to Victorian time, the Doctor did by accident while trying to escape after being swallowed but it.

pyroclasticflow
pyroclasticflow

@jay91lfc I thought the Doctor transported the dinosaur? I think they said something about the dinosaur swallowing the TARDIS so when it dematerialized, the dinosaur did too.

Polyphase
Polyphase

@Ivegotkidneys is in a Dalek Yes when he is trying to remember what seems familiar about the SS Mary Antoinette. There is also the lovely end when he says Coffee or Chips and he says he's got no money referencing my other favorite new Who Doctor. Interestingly Clara goes for coffee unlike Rose :)

MeganPowell
MeganPowell

@iMikeZero  It's not the same with the War Doctor. Granted she met him, but the first time she really saw him was alongside 10 and 11, and even after that it was really emphasized that he was part of the war, which could easily make him seem like a "whole different person" even with Clara's knowledge of all of the Doctor's forms. And then contrast that with her actually seeing the change between 11 and 12 - seeing her best friend change into someone so different, with such a different attitude and new quirks and everything - that's much more traumatizing than simply "jumping in" or "ending up" in a bit of the story. 


gunslinger19
gunslinger19

@iMikeZero im pretty sure the phone call takes place after the doctors been given the new set of regenerations, just before Clara finds the tardis phone hanging out of the tardis.

The MasterDoctor
The MasterDoctor

@Swozor But did the Doctor do either?!  I'm betting he didn't.  We purposely were not shown what happened so that we have to wonder about it until the truth is revealed.  Probably in Episode 12.  I'm willing to bet that the Doctor ended up saying that he couldn't push the Half-faced man out.  The Half-faced man, however, probably said that he COULD push the Doctor out.  The two would have fought, with the Half-faced man trying his best to push the Doctor out, only to get tangled in his own mechanical feet (or something) and accidentally fell out all on his own.  (This is all quite a bit like the 6th Doctor and the corrupted Matrix making HIM look guilty!)

Rani Nose
Rani Nose

@Polyphase The phone call wasn't about the Eleventh Doctor talking to Clara. it was Matt Smith talking to the show's fans.



Ava Averson
Ava Averson

@Polyphase I don't think it is about intelligence. I think Clara understood that the Doctor had changed as a fact, but she hadn't understood it emotionally. She had bonded to that particular Doctor, HER Doctor.. It sort of reflects the emotions of some of the viewers, as they understand that the Doctor regenerates, but are still so emotionally connected to the previous Doctor, that they find it hard to accept this new and very different man.

The MasterDoctor
The MasterDoctor

@ahunter8056 Or Madam Kovorian (the Eye-Patch lady who kept showing up when only Amy was looking - whatever her name was.)

parrot999
parrot999

I didn't get too much of that... This woman seems either immoral or amoral... After rewatching, I really get the sense she could be The Rani... Taking people right before death, and making them think they've gone to heaven does seem her style...

Dameon
Dameon

@NewWho2012 On the question of Strax I don't believe it's a question of lacking humour or being too fond of the classic series.

I appreciate that there has been a healthy dose of humour in the show's history, certainly since the days of Mr. Troughton and I would say that it has generally been a good thing. However, introducing a character who is nothing but a joke seems very out of place. If he were to be a medieval jester it would make some kind of sense, but a Sontaran does not. I'd rather that The Doctor was the humourous character playing off straight men, rather than him standing around with all the other characters waiting for Strax to perform another pratfall before the story can continue.

With regard to changing elements of the classic series, that's fine but let's not throw the baby out with the bath water. Robert Holmes developed an impressive creation in the form of the Sontarans and to my mind they were as chilling as the Daleks or the Cybermen (particularly in their first two stories). When they were reintroduced in the new series it was understandable that they were updated, but it seemed clear to me that their established traits were still present. In The Sontaran Stratagem / The Poison Sky we saw them as purpose-built soldiers, wired with a genetic imperative to conquer and to destroy all who they considered a threat to their continued existence and propagation.

The came Strax.

I didn't mind him as a one-off character in A Good Man Goes To War, where I could appreciate the novelty and he acted as a counter balance to some of the episode's darker elements. The humour wasn't the only facet of his character and he apparently died a fitting death. However, he became an irritant soon after his resurrection, providing light relief where it wasn't necessary and pretty much anything else would have been preferable (action, character development, a long-tracking-shot-with-some-nice-music, a blank screen). I find his constant slapstick purile and his constant stupidity to be repetitive and absurd.

Ultimately, he has (three-fingered) single-handed reduced a once sinister and ruthless race to a humorless joke.

Please don't take this as an attack on anyone here, just trying to explain why some people are less than impressed.


By the way, i'm not entirely sure what was meant by 'too fond of the classic series'. Is that even possible?


Scootersfood can sense your guilt
Scootersfood can sense your guilt

@Rani Nose @Polyphase It was very much both. Clara seems very much to be a representation of the fans, therefore it was not only trying to convince Clara that an older Doctor is still very much the Doctor, but the skeptical fans as well. 

09dh01
09dh01

@parrot999 The way she said (of the Doctor's accent), "I think I might keep it", suggesting the Valeyard to me.

DawnTime
DawnTime

Oh yes done that already hee hee

TeagueTysseling
TeagueTysseling

@Dameon @NewWho2012  I don't see Strax as just pure comic relief, I see him as quite a tragic character.   First he was a proud soldier, who after a run-in with the Doctor somehow ended up both disgraced into penance (Nurse duty) and owing the Doctor a debt.    While repaying the debt, Strax died heroically while still thinking poorly of himself, and was brought back to life with brain damage.   Now he lives out his life cut off from his people with his caregivers Jenny and Vastra, trying to help however he can........with everyone either laughing or annoyed by his attempts.


Rani Nose
Rani Nose

@Dameon @NewWho2012 The Sontarans were always second-rate villains.  The classic show could get by with them because there generally wasn't any character growth (for good guys as well as bad guys).  A lack of character growth is just not going to fly with today's audience and the Sontaran's don't have anywhere to go.

While they might be ruthless and honorable, Sontarans are also none too bright, unimaginative, clones.  There is only so much a writer can do with that so they might as well turn that characterization on its head and make Strax a funny, sympathetic nurse.  That's not to say Moffat has been totally successful in writing the character.  He is using the same jokes over and over (did Strax really make the same 'put on your clothes' remark to Clara twice in Deep Breath? That's terrible writing.) and it is wearing thin.  

jay91lfc
jay91lfc

@TheDreamer The HFM needed the dinosaur's nerve (or something like that) so what was he planning on doing if it hadn't of turned up?

Dameon
Dameon

@TeagueTysseling @Dameon @NewWho2012 I seem to have missed the the fact that Strax has suffered some sort of brain damage, when was that stated?

Plus if that is the case, does that mean we're supposed to laugh at him for suffering from a disability?

 His stupidity is so extreme that it beggars belief, even within the context of the Doctor Who universe.

 I wonder what he thinks HE is wearing, every time he (yet again) confuses anatomy for clothing and vice versa. It must make getting dressed very confusing for him, not to mention being a serious impediment for a nurse working on alien patients. Does he confuse removing a patient's shoes with amputating their feet?

Dameon
Dameon

@Rani Nose @Dameon @NewWho2012 Fair enough although I personally thought they were impressive in their first two stories.

I'm not sure that character growth is absolutely  necessary in this case, any more than it is for individual Daleks or Cybermen. Sontarans depicted as cruel, thuggish monomaniacs is good enough for me, as they are tailor made to be that way. Driven by their essential genetic imperatives, conditioned by their fascistic culture and enabled by their technological and scientific supriority over 'lesser' races, I feel that there are plenty of directions that could be taken without blowing a raspberry in the face of Robert Holmes. What was once a grotesque monster is now a pantomime horse.

Dameon
Dameon

@Scootersfood @Dameon @NewWho2012  Because he's the only example we have seen for some time. Admittedly there were the two featured in The Time Of The Doctor, but they were apparently from the same defective clone batch as Strax. The Three Stooges Of Sontar...

TheDreamer
TheDreamer

@jay91lfc @TheDreamer There wasn't anything he could do if the dinosaur hadn't turned up... he just got lucky that it did and took advantage, I guess.